 Jamesy
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from: matradley 
| Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue Spokesperson Jason Laszlo has stated that
"managing the network to create an optimal situation for the majority of users," , "We're blind to the content flowing through our pipes," he said. "Our goal is to ensure maximum efficiency for everyone." AND "there has been no backlash from customers, despite the incidents of the past week."
»www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/0···?ref=rss »www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008···ity.html »www.digitaljournal.com/article/2···Torrents
Here is a picture of his facebook page as of March 29, 2008 1:14PM EST . Note his status, flaunting the fact that he's a liar to the media:
What do you have to say to that, Jason? | |
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  mazhurg Premium join:2004-05-02 Portage La Prairie, MB | Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue I'd say so what as there is oviously no image there... (Either filtered or my company does not allow access to imageshack...) | |
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 |   Jamesy
@teksavvy.com | Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue Do you know of any alternate picture sites that might work for you? I want as many people as possible to see this picture. | |
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 |   mazhurg Premium join:2004-05-02 Portage La Prairie, MB | Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue That works fine.  | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue said by ultracat :I can see the image. If you guys can't Bell must be throttling your connection to the site haha ; ) I REALLY like that his political beliefs are listed as "very liberal". That must be sarcasm. Someone should email this image to Matt Hartley who's been writing the Globe and Mail stories on this. Maybe some customers can put a message on his face book page so he can correct his misguided views regarding the abscence of backlash .... Lets see how long that page of his stays up.
Regarding his political beliefs as "very liberal" ... dont think its sarcasm ... probably 2 things that we may or may not prove at a later point:
1) smoking some good weed/marijuana or snorting the white powder
2) using services of 3rd parties entertainers a la Eliot Spitzer ... client number 1 ?
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  BliZZardX Premium join:2002-08-18 Toronto, ON | Think his position will last? I call cannon fodder. | |
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join:2004-03-07 right here | Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue I call your cannon fodder and raise you a bong pipe. | |
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Hell give it to the CRTC & Industry Canada as well. | |
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join:2005-05-29 Windsor, ON | Oh come on. Is this even the guy's real page? | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue His own profile says
Work Info Employer: Bell Canada Position: Associate Director, Media Relations Location: Toronto, ON Description: Promote and Protect.
He's got 136 friends, one of whom recently posted on his Facebook wall saying "Ouch. Them's fightin words. SOME journalists - me, for example I humbly submit - can think for themselves. I heard you on CBC radio yesterday... you sounded great."
So yeah, it's really him. | |
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2 edits | I'm fairly certain that is a real Facebook profile, I found the guy on Facebook myself and things match up. I'm skeptical that's really him though, he graduated class of '05 and he's already associate director? But the post on his wall from a friend is really there. | |
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| said by HeadSpinning :Oh come on. Is this even the guy's real page? I don't know if it is or not, but wouldn't it be some ground for a lawsuit if it wasn't? like slander and defamation of character is illegal isn't it? So i don't know how it would fly on facebook. | |
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join:2007-11-24 St Catharines, ON | Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue If thats really him, and he posted that...tell me again how Bell didn't know *exactly* what they were doing here? | |
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| said by dontknowifitis :said by HeadSpinning :Oh come on. Is this even the guy's real page? I don't know if it is or not, but wouldn't it be some ground for a lawsuit if it wasn't? like slander and defamation of character is illegal isn't it? So i don't know how it would fly on facebook. Also note that the account seems to have been there for a while. It does not appear to have been recently created. | |
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join:2005-05-29 Windsor, ON | Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue I have to say, I didn't actually go to the Facebook site - I just looked at the image. It just seemed so over the top that it had to be fake. If it IS real, then we know what kind of person we're dealing with. | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue said by HeadSpinning :I have to say, I didn't actually go to the Facebook site - I just looked at the image. It just seemed so over the top that it had to be fake. If it IS real, then we know what kind of person we're dealing with. I think it is real, I'm on Facebook and the profile has existed since sometime before January 7th. | |
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join:2005-05-29 Windsor, ON | Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue I just searched for his profile, found it, but had to go get a co-worker to log in (I don't keep a Facebook account). By the time she did, he had blocked his profile, and it was no longer searchable.
I suspect it IS his profile. Nice... | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue I kind of (almost) feel for him though. While it is a blatant error to post anything that can be inferred as condescending about his work on a public medium, ultimately, we want bell to undo changes they made that he had nothing to do with... and he may well find his job in jeopardy over this... -- Windows is the virus. Linux is the vaccine, FreeBSD is the CURE | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue said by LiQuiD :I kind of (almost) feel for him though. While it is a blatant error to post anything that can be inferred as condescending about his work on a public medium, ultimately, we want bell to undo changes they made that he had nothing to do with... and he may well find his job in jeopardy over this... Who gives a fuq how you feel or anyone else feels for him.
If thats really him, then with the position he holds he should know better. and if it is him he's a dim witted moron for writing what he did and deserves everything that comes with it. | |
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| said by HeadSpinning :I just searched for his profile, found it, but had to go get a co-worker to log in (I don't keep a Facebook account). By the time she did, he had blocked his profile, and it was no longer searchable. I suspect it IS his profile. Nice... You can still view his profile, I suspect your coworker isn't in the Toronto, ON network. | |
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| said by HeadSpinning :Oh come on. Is this even the guy's real page? Yep, it's him! Have a look, it's wide open to the public: »www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=716869056
You can send him a message and become is friend, easy as can be.
What a gift! Thank you Jason Laszlo, and hope you have a good Monday morning back at the office! | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue So if you google Jason Laszlo now, you get the bell "contact us" page, obviously, then you get a hit for some website about a bloor street association (whatever) and guess what's third...
Will this have any impact on any potential changes, decision reversals, policy changes? | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue said by LiQuiD :So if you google Jason Laszlo now, you get the bell "contact us" page, obviously, then you get a hit for some website about a bloor street association (whatever) and guess what's third... Will this have any impact on any potential changes, decision reversals, policy changes? The thread title could have said "throttling" instead of "this issue" to make it more effective in the Google search result for someone who hasn't read this thread. | |
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1 edit | Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue said by CanerisErik :said by LiQuiD :So if you google Jason Laszlo now, you get the bell "contact us" page, obviously, then you get a hit for some website about a bloor street association (whatever) and guess what's third... Will this have any impact on any potential changes, decision reversals, policy changes? The thread title could have said "throttling" instead of "this issue" to make it more effective in the Google search result for someone who hasn't read this thread. Indeed! It's too bad the OP is anon and we likely can't get that first post altered. What are the ods the mods are gonna help us out? hehe
*clicks* hey mods
Reason for moderation: Can we get the subject line changed in the first post so that we get more hits and hits on people that aren't looking for throttling posts on google? kthx | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue said by LiQuiD :said by CanerisErik :said by LiQuiD :So if you google Jason Laszlo now, you get the bell "contact us" page, obviously, then you get a hit for some website about a bloor street association (whatever) and guess what's third... Will this have any impact on any potential changes, decision reversals, policy changes? The thread title could have said "throttling" instead of "this issue" to make it more effective in the Google search result for someone who hasn't read this thread. Indeed! It's too bad the OP is anon and we likely can't get that first post altered. What are the ods the mods are gonna help us out? hehe *clicks* hey mods Reason for moderation: Can we get the subject line changed in the first post so that we get more hits and hits on people that aren't looking for throttling posts on google? kthx This Real? -- TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. | |
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1 edit | Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue said by R0CKY :This Real? Oh come on Rocky.. did I lose all credibility JUST because of that Ron Jeremy thing????
Uhm, I don't know. Looks pretty convincing, but since I'm not part of the "Toronto network" (nor will I ever, and will not risk humiliation from friends just to see his profile) I can't see his profile.
Cheers, RJ
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@teksavvy.com | Hey please change the thread title and any relevant info in the first post, didn't realize I have to have an account to do that (Rocky you can check if you'd like to verify it's the same IP) | |
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join:2003-03-02 Canada | He recently changed his privacy settings so only his friends can view his profile.
So yeah..it's HIM. time to mock this doofus! | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue said by Manatrite :He recently changed his privacy settings so only his friends can view his profile. I thought he'd do that, just to make sure I did a series of 12 screenshots that covers his entire profile, top to bottom. | |
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1 edit | Too late for Laszlo to be doing damage control after his page was already captured and posted and the media notified. Given his position with Bell and the issue at hand he was more than a doofus to post a remark like that about the journalists, he's a complete idiot. I think Bell will have to fire him in an effort to save face with the media. | |
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| Jokes aside, I would *really* appreciate if anyone can post links to articles or statements by anyone at Bell that deal with the issue of having to throttle to prevent a few downloaders from messing with the rest of the users.
This is a very critical point to bring to the competition bureau since it gives them lots of meat to chew on with regards to Bell's ads that say that users of DSL can download Videos and Music without impacting other users in the neighbouhood. | |
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| I just sent the following to Matt Hartley:
Your recent article on internet traffic management completely missed the point about Bell Canada's decision to interfere with the services it provides to third party DSL wholesalers.
There is no evidence that Bell's decision to throttle service provided to wholesalers has anything to do with preserving capacity on Bell's network. Rather, it's a fairly simple case where Bell has used its position as a monopoly provider of last mile DSL service to prevent any DSL ISP from offering better service than Bell's retail DSL ISP arm (Sympatico) chooses to offer. While there is no evidence of Bell deliberately crippling third party DSL ISPs, the definite *effect* of Bell's policy is to tilt the playing field such that no Bell competitor can offer better service than Sympatico chooses to offer.
Furthermore, Bell's wholesale throttling effects far more than P2P users. There are many reports on the dslreports.com Teksavvy forum[1] of people who have been unable to access work-related electronic resources from home, properly use online banking, use internet telephone services, or play online games, because Bell's throttling system is so badly implemented that it can't distinguish these normal, low-bandwidth, *and incontrovertibly legal* activities from P2P filesharing.
Calling wholesale ISP throttling a mere capacity issue related to P2P traffic completely whitewashes the issues involved. Bell Canada is the only one who benefits from this. Indeed, Bell spokesman Jason Laszlo's appears to be so happy about the way this issue has played out in the media that at 1:14pm on Saturday, Laszlo's facebook status page indicated that he was "realizing how little seperates (sic) most journalists from lemmings." [2]
I strongly urge you to spend some time researching the ultimate effects of Bell's decision to throttle wholesale ISPs--start by reading [1] for a few hours--and write a follow up piece as soon as possible.
Regards, Coridon Henshaw, Communications liberties activist, Ottawa.
[1] »TekSavvy
[2] A screen capture can be found here: »Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue
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join:2008-01-30 Toronto, ON | His profile is still publically accessible. Those of you who doubt the authenticity of the screen shot, just search Jason Laszlo on facebook and look for yourself. Feel free to leave him a Wall post too : ) One journalist already has. | |
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| How ironic it would be if his employer he is defending axes him over this ... hahaha would be a cruel world indeed.
Obviously we probably are taking his quote out of context ... maybe it deals with another issue totally unrelating to this. Would hate to tear him apart from his bread and butter over something that he really didn't have a say in. Sweeney and all those other cronies are targets, this guy is an over-achieving liar but not the guy who owns this mess. | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue said by Omr :How ironic it would be if his employer he is defending axes him over this ... hahaha would be a cruel world indeed. Obviously we probably are taking his quote out of context ... maybe it deals with another issue totally unrelating to this. Would hate to tear him apart from his bread and butter over something that he really didn't have a say in. Sweeney and all those other cronies are targets, this guy is an over-achieving liar but not the guy who owns this mess. I don't know, but with those 2 other name changes just minutes before the final one with the lemmings comment, i'm pretty sure they all have to do with the same ting. Or maybe he's an over achieving liar with multiple personalities.. | |
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join:2007-09-17 Waterloo, ON | meh. Who cares about his personal views on the issue.
Just because Bell tells me something, makes me follow a policy, etc. doesn't mean that I believe in it. I just do it because it's my job. | |
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| Posted to CBC's comments tread following their story on the NUPGE press releace:
Bell's traffic shaping is hurting a lot more than P2P users. There are many reports on the dslreports.com Teksavvy forum (»TekSavvy) of people who have been unable to access work-related electronic resources from home, properly use online banking, use internet telephone services, or play online games, because Bell's throttling system is so badly implemented that it can't distinguish these normal, low-bandwidth, *and incontrovertibly legal* activities from P2P filesharing. In most cases, the same problems apply to Rogers as well.
Because Bell and Rogers have a duopoly on last mile internet access in most of Ontario, there is now no way for anyone who wants/needs to make use of the Internet to work from home, play games online, or otherwise take full advantage of the internet revolution have no way to do so. This is literally a step backwards to the pre-broadband dialup days of Internet service.
CBC needs to follow this up this issue urgently as neither Bell or Rogers have shown any willingness to reduce the collateral damage of their war on P2P.
Indeed, Bell's arrogance on traffic shaping is such that Bell spokesman Jason Laszlo was recently caught stating on Facebook that he is "realizing how little seperates (sic) journalists from lemmings."[1] Assuming the Facebook page is not a forgery, it seems clear that neither Bell or its spokeman have all that much respect for their fellow Canadians.
[1] »Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue
The important thing is not if he keeps his job (or not) but rather that the media takes his (and Bell's) comments in the proper context. -- Coridon Henshaw -=- »www.talisiorder.ca | |
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  quickbeam Premium join:2003-06-01 Ottawa | I'm pretty sure he will get in sh1t for this if not canned. | |
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| Re: Jason Laszlo (Bell spokesman)'s real thoughts on this issue said by quickbeam :I'm pretty sure he will get in sh1t for this if not canned. Unlikely
However, I would spalsh it everywhere for all to see. | |
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| If you ever meet the guy you'd find he's pretty sweet, real stand up kind of person.
And yes, if my boss told me go read a press release, even though I didn't agree with the terms and subject of it, I would read it regardless to the public.
Do I agree with some of the Bell internal corp bullshit? No I don't. But I still work there. | |
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