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Hands off our network, Bell tells CRTC

I can't say I'm surprised, they've really been greedy recently. Let's hope the CRTC is smart enough to force them to keep wholesaling.

reply to cacruden
"Geist and others have criticized Minister of Industry Jim Prentice for his silence on the issue. Prentice was "disinterested" in the issue when it arose in question period in the House of Commons on Wednesday, he said."

This is pretty poor representation for consumers considering the barrage of complaints his office has received as of late.

This just proves Bell was, and is, out to harm the competition like teksavvy.

reply to Radar73
I agree, Minister pretince doesnt even seem to care. Is there anyone left in the government of this country (besides Mr.Angus) who actually care about the general public?

reply to upchuck
I thought, as according to Lazlo, there is no consumer backlash! XD

Goddamn conservative governments!

reply to cacruden
This doesn't give me any hope.

reply to cacruden
I see this as a good thing... Bell's outright saying that there's an issue, and they're bringing it straight to the CRTC. I think it would be much worse if Bell just tried to sweep the whole throttling thing under the carpet.

reply to ShadPTR
Im waiting for the next election, i dont understand how any politician can possible think this isnt a big deal.

My vote will definatly not be conservative.

reply to cacruden
Sweet, so Bell thinks there is enough ISP competition so they want to stop selling access. Knock Knock McFly, if you stop selling access the competition will be gone, which would defeat the purpose of the original rules. (Yes I know that is their entire intent of this appeal)

BTW Bell your only competition is from 3rd party DSL companies and Cable, which last time I checked, didn't have any serious 3rd party resellers. (yes I know 3web and others technically provides cable but 1-2 people reselling the same service doesn't equal competition)

If bell does do this, I could see one of the biggest lawsuits in history coming and guess what, the CRTC would likely get sued for allowing it to happen.

reply to cacruden
Wow..... I feel like I have been taking crazy pills!

Here we all are, complaining to the CRTC about how uncompetitive things are, and they are arguing the exact opposite.

"Bell said such regulation is no longer necessary now that there is enough competition in phone and internet markets".

I honestly felt sick to my stomach after reading that.

Are we honestly living in the Bizarro world?

reply to cacruden
I would hope Teksavvy and the other smaller ISPs, have a backup plan...

I have a feeling ISP's using Bell lines may be paying much more... MUCH MUCH MORE should they win at appealing this.

I think if the CRTC required the copper network to be owned and managed by a neutral party, that was contracted to provide service for Bell, and other ISPs/Phone CO's, this would end this crap.

I just don't see each co running their own copper/fiber down the road.

reply to cacruden
Wow, Marx was right about capitalists seeking to become monopolists, and willfully concentrating ownership of the means of production ("the economy") into ever fewer hands.

Vote Tory!

reply to koreyb
All the 3rd party ISP's need to band together and file a lawsuit against Bell ASAP before Bell has a chance to appeal the CRTC decision.

Bell's attitude toward competition is outrageous.

reply to ftp1020
One must ask the question: What is **REALLY** going on at Bell ?

Perhaps their strategy is to fire in a gazillion directions at the same time to overwhelm the CRTC, hoping the George W Harper will intervene to free Bell from the CRTC completely before a vote of non confidence forces an election.

reply to cacruden
So we are already living under what basically is a duopoly and now Bell wants to entrench its and the cable companies position into a true duopoly again. What we need instead is for the CRTC to force access to the cable companies networks for resale by third parties, and funding and subsidies so that 3rd parties can build networks and access points, so that Bell loses this position of power and domination.

Not like that will ever happen...

reply to jfmezei
It smells to me like Bell is worried about losing the wholesale service degradation issue at the CRTC and has opted to attack the CRTC's jurisdiction instead. This is a bit like playing chess and electing to club your opponent about the head with a baseball bat because he is getting close to putting you in checkmate.

I'd say the chances of Bell getting away with this are actually greater than the chances of them getting away with merely degrading wholesale service.

reply to cacruden
The problem here is that they didn't file with the CRTC - they filed a leave to appeal with the Federal Court to overturn the CRTC's decision.

They're basically saying that they don't agree with the CRTC so they're going above their heads.

If ya don't like the way the game is turning out, ask for a new rulebook I guess.