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| US Air Force developing DDOS capabilities
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The U.S. Air Force Cyber Command is developing capabilities to inflict denial of service, confidential data loss, data manipulation, and system integrity loss on its adversaries, and to combine these with physical attacks, according to a senior U.S. general. Air Force Cyber Command (AFCYBER) » www.afcyber.af.mil/ , a U.S. military unit set up in September 2007 to fight in cyberspace, is due to become fully operational in the autumn under the aegis of the U.S. Eighth Air Force. "Offensive cyberattacks in network warfare make kinetic attacks more effective, (for example) if we take out an adversary's integrated defense systems or weapons systems," Elder said. "This is exploiting cyber to achieve our objectives." Other causes for military concern include possible supply-chain vulnerabilities, where vulnerabilities are introduced into chipsets during manufacturing that an adversary can then exploit, and electronics vulnerabilities. US is vulnerable because an enemy now makes most of our electronics - CHINA.
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  Mchart Tech Control
join:2004-01-21 Gurnee, IL | This is pretty old news dude. |
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| said by Mchart :This is pretty old news dude. But he is the news dude. -- "The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." |
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| reply to Mchart said by Mchart :This is pretty old news dude.
U.S. reveals plans to hit back at cyberthreats By Tom Espiner Special to CNET News.com Published: April 4, 2008 9:18 AM PDT -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page |
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| reply to TK Junk Mail Hmm, interesting.
I would say any country that ties their critical systems to the Internet so foreign powers can touch them is foolish.
I highly doubt either China (they are the enemy? - ok) or the United States has such systems exposed. |
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| reply to TK Junk Mail said by TK Junk Mail :said by Mchart :This is pretty old news dude. U.S. reveals plans to hit back at cyberthreats By Tom Espiner Special to CNET News.com Published: April 4, 2008 9:18 AM PDT That information has been up on the AFPortal for eons now. |
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| reply to longstreet said by longstreet :Hmm, interesting. I would say any country that ties their critical systems to the Internet so foreign powers can touch them is foolish. I highly doubt either China (they are the enemy? - ok) or the United States has such systems exposed. You would have thought so. But that isn't the case:
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The infrastructure the U.S. military uses to both launch and defend against cyberattacks runs through the public Internet system. Military networks such as the Global Information Grid are linked to U.S. government and critical national infrastructure systems, which in turn are linked to the public Internet. Adversary systems are subverted by the U.S. military through public channels--however, this also leaves the U.S. military open to attack through the same channels, said Elder.
"The infrastructure on which the Air Force depends is controlled by both military and commercial entities and is vulnerable to attacks and manipulation," Elder said. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page |
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  longstreet
join:2004-11-14 Salt Lake City, UT | To attack the public internet, you have to be on the public internet.
My point is :
[Critical] systems are NOT on the public internet |
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| said by longstreet :To attack the public internet, you have to be on the public internet. My point is : [Critical] systems are NOT on the public internet If only you knew. |
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I'd be pretty scared for my own security if someone got into that. Many what you call 'critical' systems are definatly attackable from the outside world. |
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join:2004-11-14 Salt Lake City, UT | reply to TK Junk Mail a public webserver is not a [Critical] system |
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| said by longstreet :a public webserver is not a [Critical] system OK. You just keep telling yourself that. Obviously I don't know what i'm talking about. I'm just a lowly tech controller. |
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  N3OGH It's Biden Vs. the Biscuit. Sarah's hot Premium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs | reply to Mchart I hadn't seen it before.... |
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| reply to Mchart said by Mchart :said by longstreet :a public webserver is not a [Critical] system OK. You just keep telling yourself that. Obviously I don't know what i'm talking about. I'm just a lowly tech controller. Are you saying the military puts their critical systems on the public internet? |
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| said by longstreet :said by Mchart :said by longstreet :a public webserver is not a [Critical] system OK. You just keep telling yourself that. Obviously I don't know what i'm talking about. I'm just a lowly tech controller. Are you saying the military puts their critical systems on the public internet? The news article does a good job at answering that I would think. |
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| Don't avoid my question.
The news article is embellished.
Military web servers exposed to the world are not [critical] however, apparently, news.com columnists, being the internet security experts on government systems, seem to think so.
So, the news article is a poor qualifier for critical systems.
It's the same old sensationalist reporting.
The real truth is, classified systems are on a different, secured network completely separate from the public internet. How lowly are you? Just out of AIT? |
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  Jeffrey Bye George, 1937-2008 Premium join:2002-12-24 Long Island clubs: | reply to TK Junk Mail China is going to be a big problem, if they aren't already. |
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  Boogeyman Drive it like you stole it Premium join:2002-12-17 Huntsville, AL | reply to Mchart Um, thats not a critical system. |
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join:2004-01-21 Gurnee, IL | I'd consider DISN to be critical. |
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