cablegeek01
join:2003-05-13
Canon City, CO
| reply to Anonguy
Re: Bresnan actively intercepting ALL packets
"What you really need to be concerned about though is the fact that if you are a VoIP subscriber through Bresnan your VoIP packets are also traversing these links. Think about this… What if this device has a major issue and you need to place an e911 call. How’s that for quality? This includes Bresnan’s very own “Digital Phone Service”."
While I have my own feelings about directed advertising, I'd like to offer a little insight about this.
Although the device is in line with the CMTS, there are redundant links around it in case of failure.
It's also protocol specific. HTTP traffic and SIP/VoIP traffic are handled with different QoS values, and different priorities. This will have no effect on your Vonage, Skype, or Bresnan phone service.
Furthermore, the Bresnan Core network has a series of redundant links, and fail over/hot standby devices. A failure of the ad server would most likely be invisible to the end user. You are much more likely to be affected by a failure or impairment of the cable system due to environmental or physical (a car hitting a telephone pole) event than a hardware failure.
Getting back to the ad tailoring; while I'm personally not a fan of it, the ad tailoring is much less invasive than what several other (large) ISPs are currently doing.
At least Bresnan doesn't engage in destination based traffic prioritization, or packet shaping (they don't limit or delay P2P traffic, or streaming applications like video or music).
While you do tend to get the "big brother is watching" feeling when you hear about this stuff, you need to realize that there is no personal information being stored or transmitted. Another note is that this type of technology has been in use by most major ISPs, and even ad supported search sites like google for years now.
My personal feeling is that although I'd rather not see any ads on the internet (and not see any, even minimally invasive monitoring), at least this will give me ads that I might have some interest in. |
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anonguy6
join:2008-06-18
Minneapolis, MN
| Haven't replied here in awhile; not because cablegeek01 was right, far far from it but because I've simply been too busy to do so.
Man I hate being so right. Sometimes it just hurts to be so right all the time.
You sound like a complete homer. You'd defend Bresnan if they sold bags of excrement to customers; you'd claim it was the best idea ever and explain how well the peanuts in the excrement assist in transmission of packets.
What's this I see right on the front page of dslreports.com ? Ahh yes, that Charter is NOT going to implement this absolute POS packet intercepting box because of legal issues. »Charter NebuAD Trials Delayed
Here's a fun list of links.
»publications.mediapost.com/index···id=84797
»www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3629536
»Behavioral Advertising Could Be Illegal
»yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=···/1832256
»consumerist.com/5008801/charter-···eted-ads
»arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···ing.html |
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funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·Skype
| They've taken pains not to mention NebuAd by name, but it is NebuAd. The script they use for OptOut mentions a.faireagle.com, and faireagle.com is a NebuAd company.
See lines 347 and 348 of the attached. |
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fllw_fan
@bresnan.net
| reply to cablegeek01
said by cablegeek01  :"What you really need to be concerned about though is the fact that if you are a VoIP subscriber through Bresnan your VoIP packets are also traversing these links." Bresnan's digital phone service is not VoIP. It is a standard POTS switch. Bresnan uses IDT as a third party provider for access to the PSTN and the 9-1-1 database. There is no packet disruption because the digital phone is not VoIP telephony. Bresnan is just another ALEC. |
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