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SUMware
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Experian (the credit reporting agency) to track net users

From TimesOnline
April 6, 2008 -
said by TimesOnline :
EXPERIAN, the credit checking company, is braving mounting concerns over internet privacy with plans to launch a service that will track broad-band users’ activity so they can be targeted with advertising.

Through Hitwise, the web-site company it acquired for £120m a year ago, Experian has held talks with internet service providers to sell its monitoring technology.

Observers expect it to compete in part with Phorm, an AIM-listed company that has stirred controversy after being recruited by BT, TalkTalk and Virgin Media to track their 10m customers’ behaviour so they can be sent advertising messages on the websites they are looking at.

However, the key difference is that Hitwise, which describes itself as an “online competitive intelligence service” would play little part in dispatching the advertising to web pages itself, something that Phorm does through its Open Internet Exchange.

“Hitwise is not in the online behavioural targeting business,” a spokesman said.

Phorm’s shares have tumbled 36% since it unveiled its three key clients in February, partly because of a £32m fund-raising for overseas expansion.

Last week, BT was drawn into the privacy row when it admitted to carrying out secret trials of the Phorm technology in late 2006. Jonathan Groo-cock, an analyst at Investec, thinks a revenue sharing model could bring in an extra £85m of sales to BT.

Another trial to be carried out shortly by the two companies will be monitored by the Information Commissioner’s Office, which said: “Clearly the trial should reveal whether this is a service that web users want, whether it is privacy friendly and that users are comfortable with the privacy safeguards put in place by Phorm.”

Kent Ertugrul, Phorm’s chief executive, insists that it tracks users anonymously, replacing their identities with random numbers that are dropped once an ad has been sent. Unlike “cookies” dispatched by many websites to track behaviour, it can also be switched off.

The company has recruiteda heavyweight board, including David Dorman, the former boss of AT&T and Christopher Lawrence, the vice-chairman of Rothschild.

Experian, once part of GUS, is best known for trawling public records and selling the data to banks and retailers.


major marco
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the credit checking company, is braving mounting concerns over internet privacy with plans to launch a service that will track broad-band users’ activity so they can be targeted with advertising.
Oh now that's comforting. These credit checking agencies could give a fck less about who they sell confidential data to and could give a fck even less as to whether that data is even correct, even when they have been notified a dozen times to correct it, and, now they want to track Internet activity. That's as brilliant as the usage of Phorm!
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Its a Secret
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More the reason to start blocking these IP ranges in your router, FW, cookies and host file. I plan on using every resource I have against these idiots.
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Just Basics

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You will have to block your own ISP.


Its a Secret
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In the case of Phorm, yes. But Experion, I'm not so sure. However, better to be safe than a chump.
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SnowyOne
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reply to major marco
said by major marco See Profile :

the credit checking company, is braving mounting concerns over internet privacy with plans to launch a service that will track broad-band users’ activity so they can be targeted with advertising.
Oh now that's comforting. These credit checking agencies could give a fck less about who they sell confidential data to and could give a fck even less as to whether that data is even correct, even when they have been notified a dozen times to correct it,
There is a workaround to incorrect data & it's emphasizes who unscrupulous these operators are.
A few years back, before starting a refi I did the free online credit check. It produced 2 items that could have had a negative effect on my credit worthiness. One item was flat out wrong, the other item was correct but thought the creditor wouldn't go to the trouble of verifying it if asked by Experian to do so. I disputed both items & received a letter from them that I didn't dispute the items properly & would need to resubmit the disputes. There was a "hint" in the letter that suggested if I sign up for a 3 credit bureau service for $39.95 they'd 'properly' submit my challenges.
I was game, the stakes were high, so I paid the $39.95 online.
Within a week both items automagically disappeared.
Thanks for bringing this up, it's been bothering me for a few years now, I feel better already.

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said by Its a Secret See Profile :

..However, better to be safe than a chump.
Safe from what ? I'm not sure I understand your beef. If you do not use ad blocking software, and elect to be shown ads in your content, what is wrong with looking at ones that are relevant to your interests as opposed to a bunch of crap that you couldn't care less about ? Intelligently crafted ads are great. I am much happier to see ads about Wi-Fi amplification or connectivity devices as opposed to feminine hygiene products or cute little baby kitties. Unless you are a spendo-path with an un-controlled left-click obsessive automatic reaction, this crafted ad idea should be quite welcome.


Its a Secret
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I have all ads blocked on my rigs. If I want to see adverts, I'll buy a TV and turn it on.
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Its a Secret
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BTW, you may trust Phorm or Experian to serve you clean ads (no malware etc.), but I don't. Your choice, but I know what mine is, TYVM.
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SnowyOne
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said by SipSizzurp See Profile :

said by Its a Secret See Profile :

..However, better to be safe than a chump.
Safe from what ? I'm not sure I understand your beef. If you do not use ad blocking software, and elect to be shown ads in your content, what is wrong with looking at ones that are relevant to your interests as opposed to a bunch of crap that you couldn't care less about ? Intelligently crafted ads are great. I am much happier to see ads about Wi-Fi amplification or connectivity devices as opposed to feminine hygiene products or cute little baby kitties. Unless you are a spendo-path with an un-controlled left-click obsessive automatic reaction, this crafted ad idea should be quite welcome.
Safe from what? I'm wondering whose afraid of what now. Are you afraid of feminine hygiene product ads? Why would you allow your surfing history to be tracked to avoid them?
Any guy that's ever had any type of meaningful relationship with a female, outside of their mother, has the built in ability to be oblivious to feminine hygiene product ads.


La Luna
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reply to Its a Secret
said by Its a Secret See Profile :

BTW, you may trust Phorm or Experian to serve you clean ads (no malware etc.)....
That's my main issue with this crap. I don't mind non-intrusive print ads in general (they are easy to ignore), but I'm pretty sure I remember problems with malware infested ad links that people were/are getting tagged by. Bogus downloads for rogue "security software" comes to mind. And I also remember a big hoopla by *some* website owners claiming they had a right to serve up ads without caring where they came from or what kind of havoc they were causing because they make $$ off of them.

This is no different and I certainly have no confidence that it would be any safer.
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Its a Secret
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Nicely said, LL. My exact thoughts.
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