 R0CKY TSI Rocky Premium,VIP join:2005-05-19 Chatham, ON
2 edits | Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, MAY 15TH NOW!
I'm approaching you all to see about making this Rally as visible as possible. I'm work on putting together as big a rally as possible for net neutrality. The Telco/Cableco monopolies in Canada have all recently accelerated their efforts in the resent weeks, since Bell's Throttling started. Net Neutrality deals in various forms, but of major concern are privacy, choice and ISP transparency. The impending CRTC ruling may very well pave the road for either continued Canadian technical advancement/progress, or set the scene for a Corporate Canadian Internet. If we don't stand up and get both a better public and a stronger political understanding I fear our internet freedoms might be up for grabs by the highest bidder, or worse simply taken away!
Where: Parliament Hill in Ottawa When: April 29th Time: 1PM to 6PM
You guys want to make a case for Net Neutrality, then lets stop talking and start doing! I'M IN!
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EDIT: THE RALLY AS MENTIONED IN THE ABOVE TITLE HAS NOW BEEN MOVED TO MAY 15TH. THE TIME WILL BE MADE PUBLIC SOON, AS FOR THE LOCATION, IT'S STILL ON PARLIAMENT HILL!
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join:2005-07-08 K2P OW2 | Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! its right down the street from my place so i'll go | |
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join:2005-02-26 CANADA | If only i didnt have to work. i'd drive down from montreal.. just to stand there and protest. stupid drone work. | |
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 |   R0CKY TSI Rocky Premium,VIP join:2005-05-19 Chatham, ON
| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! said by alphaz18 :If only i didnt have to work. i'd drive down from montreal.. just to stand there and protest. stupid drone work. Sick day, off day, skip... Don't matter. If you want to make a difference, do it! You have roughly a week!  -- TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. | |
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 |  |   R0CKY TSI Rocky Premium,VIP join:2005-05-19 Chatham, ON | Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! Just so happens the Committee for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics is meeting that day!  -- TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. | |
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2 edits | Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! TSI customers who show up get one of those new shirts free, maybe? :P
Although, as awesome as that'd be, that could be too expensive. Maybe have a little contest or something at the rally, give away two or three tshirts to the winners.
EDIT: Bring some to sell at a discount, since there'd be no shipping charges?
How much would the shirts be without shipping? | |
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| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! said by derekm :I'm all for it. As long as we still have the right to hold a peaceful demonstration in this country: » www.thestar.com/News/article/248608I wonder what ever became of the police involved in this debacle... hmm? Lets be smart and do this the right way....
I'll do my best to make this as best organized as possible, so if anyone has experience in this or wants to help organise, please PM me so that we can gather the efforts! -- TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. | |
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1 edit | Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! Hmm... That's the day before school starts, so I'm technically free...
I wonder what the cheapest way to get to Ottawa from Montreal is. Having missed today's gaming meeting, this protest might be the only way I can meet the DSLR/TSI gang :P
EDIT: Somehow I doubt the RCMP has better things to do than harass a bunch of nerds protesting internet things :P | |
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join:2005-07-08 K2P OW2 | Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! protesting is fine. they have protests all the time on the hill.
I'd definitly issue a press release before the event and hope it gets picked up by the media
Also, a weekend date might get more attention and support | |
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 |  |  |  |   R0CKY TSI Rocky Premium,VIP join:2005-05-19 Chatham, ON | Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! There are significant people in Parliament that day, so if we can make a very large impact from a population standpoint our message will be heard! -- TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. | |
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join:2005-02-26 CANADA
| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! should emplore the great citizens of ottawa to protest as much as possible. as i suspect it, i dont believe that too many of us are willing to not only skip work but skip work AND go all the way to ottawa from say toronto .. for a stand there protest.. sure there maybe a few. but.. yeah. | |
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2 edits | said by R0CKY :There are significant people in Parliament that day, so if we can make a very large impact from a population standpoint our message will be heard! I am unfortunately not able to make it from Toronto to Ottawa, but my spirit will be carried with everyones efforts!!! | |
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| said by backness :I'd definitly issue a press release before the event and hope it gets picked up by the media I'm trying to see if there's a media contact whom I can forward to Rocky. -- pablo openSUSE 10.3/KDE ISP: TekSavvy DSL; backhauled via a 6KM wireless link | |
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| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! The lo down is as `backness' mentioned, a Press Release needs to be created and released.
It needs to be pushed here: »www.gallery-tribune.ca
Someone adept at writing Press Releases should cobble one together. An idea is to go to the above site and model one after an existing one. -- pablo openSUSE 10.3/KDE ISP: TekSavvy DSL; backhauled via a 6KM wireless link | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |   Guspaz Guspaz Premium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC | Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! Should still be sent from the organizers. Rocky, in this case.
On the other hand, is it really OK for Rocky to be organizing a protest when he's involved with the CAIP filing? | |
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| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! said by Guspaz :Should still be sent from the organizers. Rocky, in this case. On the other hand, is it really OK for Rocky to be organizing a protest when he's involved with the CAIP filing? The train has left the station. It's hard to stop a train!! | |
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1 edit | said by Guspaz :Should still be sent from the organizers. Rocky, in this case. On the other hand, is it really OK for Rocky to be organizing a protest when he's involved with the CAIP filing? This isn't about CAIP or the CRTC right now... This is about Net Neutrality. I however do welcome anyone with experience in putting these types of events together to join in to make this a success as I admit, I've never done this before. -- TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. | |
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join:2005-02-26 CANADA
| said by Guspaz :Hmm... That's the day before school starts, so I'm technically free... I wonder what the cheapest way to get to Ottawa from Montreal is. Having missed today's gaming meeting, this protest might be the only way I can meet the DSLR/TSI gang :P EDIT: Somehow I doubt the RCMP has better things to do than harass a bunch of nerds protesting internet things :P guspaz. theres a few options cheapest would be drive. next option is take the bus go to canadacoach or greyhound. they have round trips. not too expensive. train is by far most expensive. you cannot take plane from montreal to ottawa. theres no flights . because mtl is too close to ottawa | |
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Coach Canada doesn't go to Ottawa. At all, apparently.
EDIT: My bad, $42 student fare. Interestingly enough, VIA is cheaper for adult fare ($58) than Greyhound ($69). | |
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| alphaz ...
By far the most expensive is plane ... there are 11 flights per day each way on Air Canada between Dorval and Ottawa. But the price is over $200 roundtrip. Plus the cost of getting to/from the airports.
Book 1 day in advance and bus is 53 for adult round trip. It's operated by Voyageur for Greyhound who own the route. You can go from Montreal Coach station or from Dorval airport.
Car is about that for driving too right now!
Via rail is nice but it goes from downtown montreal to just outside ottawa centre. The bus is much closer to downtown.
CoachCanada does not serve Ottawa except for "charter" services, for example Queens University service to and from Kingston. | |
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1 edit | Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! Looks like I've managed to secure a ride by car with another protester if I go.
How about getting in touch with Anonymous, see if they'd be willing to help protest? They might consider this beneath them, but their concerns are at least peripherally related. | |
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join:2007-11-20 Niagara Falls, ON
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| said by alphaz18 :said by Guspaz :Hmm... That's the day before school starts, so I'm technically free... I wonder what the cheapest way to get to Ottawa from Montreal is. Having missed today's gaming meeting, this protest might be the only way I can meet the DSLR/TSI gang :P EDIT: Somehow I doubt the RCMP has better things to do than harass a bunch of nerds protesting internet things :P guspaz. theres a few options cheapest would be drive. next option is take the bus go to canadacoach or greyhound. they have round trips. not too expensive. train is by far most expensive. you cannot take plane from montreal to ottawa. theres no flights . because mtl is too close to ottawa What about carpool? I'm sure there is someone elsee in your area going up. | |
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join:2008-01-17 | Actually porter Air flys from Montreal, ottawa and toronto. Very reasonable rates. | |
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join:2005-02-01 Scarborough, ON | Pity. I'll be in the US on that day, so you'll have to represent me there. | |
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  GKC
join:2008-03-07 Toronto, ON
| said by R0CKY :I'm approaching you all to see about making this Rally as visible as possible. I'm work on putting together as big a rally as possible for net neutrality. The Telco/Cableco monopolies in Canada have all recently accelerated their efforts in the resent weeks, since Bell's Throttling started. Net Neutrality deals in various forms, but of major concern are privacy, choice and ISP transparency. The impending CRTC ruling may very well pave the road for either continued Canadian technical advancement/progress, or set the scene for a Corporate Canadian Internet. If we don't stand up and get both a better public and a stronger political understanding I fear our internet freedoms might be up for grabs by the highest bidder, or worse simply taken away! Where: Parliament Hill in Ottawa When: April 29th Time: 1PM to 6PM You guys want to make a case for Net Neutrality, then lets stop talking and start doing! I'M IN! Rocky And for those of you who are unable to make it to Ottawa, you can always consider a similar demonstration in front of Queens Park; same day and time...  | |
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join:2007-10-24 Pointe-Claire, QC | We need to get more people involved. Let's hope Michael Geist talks about it. | |
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join:2008-03-07 Toronto, ON | Rocky...and what's to be your theme title for this protest? | |
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| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! said by GKC :Rocky...and what's to be your theme title for this protest? This is about Net Neutrality.... If we're to promote Technological advancement in Canada, we need ISP transparency, personal privacy and choice of content to be 1st on our minds. The internet is important to all of us, and as such it needs to remain open to everyone. Google would not have become what it is now without it, so who knows what's next.... Many good things have come from this beautiful open forum!
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality
This is about the big picture on Internet (in general) for Canada.... -- TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. | |
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  Guspaz Guspaz Premium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC | "The cows are on the lam! Protest at the big barn!" | |
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join:2008-03-07 Toronto, ON | Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! Forever Net Neutrality! | |
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  milnoc
join:2001-03-05 H3B | I'll be there with my camcorder, and create a segment for my YouTube page. I need the practice for my upcoming TV channel. | |
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join:2004-04-22 Quebec, QC | I'd love to be there, but the whole return bus fare from Québec city is a bit much. If anyone can offer a lift tho, I'll see about getting the day off work..... | |
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 |   GKC
join:2008-03-07 Toronto, ON | Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! And share the expense of the gas...  | |
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join:2004-04-22 Quebec, QC | Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! > And share the expense of the gas...
Yes, of course! | |
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  Guspaz Guspaz Premium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC | IMO a protest is more about getting media coverage than convincing politicians to do anything; it's almost impossible to sway them, it seems.
However, more media coverage on the issue of net neutrality is a very good thing. | |
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join:2008-03-27 Ottawa, ON | If it's a go, I'll be there. We should try to mobilize the Facebook crowd - there are nearly 2000 people in the "Stop The Throttler (Bell)!!!" group.
I'll start a discussion thread there to see if we can generate much interest. | |
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 |   R0CKY TSI Rocky Premium,VIP join:2005-05-19 Chatham, ON
| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! said by Abattoir :If it's a go, I'll be there. We should try to mobilize the Facebook crowd - there are nearly 2000 people in the "Stop The Throttler (Bell)!!!" group. I'll start a discussion thread there to see if we can generate much interest. This is about Net Neutrality, not the CRTC thing... Please keep this in mind. -- TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. | |
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join:2004-04-22 Quebec, QC
| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! > This is about Net Neutrality, not the CRTC thing... Please keep this in mind.
It would be good to have a leaflet to hand out to protesters which explains the reasons for the protest as well as a FAQ for media-type questions.
That way once this picks up momentum everyone will be on the same page, instead of it becoming a "Don't throttle my torrents!" protest -- which the media will certainly be quick to exploit. | |
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| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! said by jvaux :That way once this picks up momentum everyone will be on the same page, instead of it becoming a "Don't throttle my torrents!" protest -- which the media will certainly be quick to exploit. This is a very important point. | |
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| some ideas:
1) you could try to increase the number of participants by contacting the forums of the other ISP including Bell forum and asking for a temporary sticky post as well. Net neutrality affects everybody and not just TSI subscribers ie the TSI forum.
2) if you want to know people who have experience organizing protests on parliament hill, talk with the union people who made a complain with the CRTC. I think it was the National Union of Public and General Employees. I think they could help you organize and get their members to participate or even get other unions involved. Google says their website is »www.nupge.ca/
3) Contact the public personalities like MP Charlie Angus, Michael geist to try to get them to participate since by their profession they are quite close to parliament.
4) Try to contact the CBC to arrange media coverage since they have been covering the story since the beginning and it affects them through the P2P distribution strategy on their website. Maybe they can give advice on releasing a press release as well. | |
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| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! said by qweloo :some ideas: Seems like we would need more than TSI here... maybe CAIP members should do the same so that we can all be on the hill discussing Net Neutrality (and not the CRTC issue). | |
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join:2007-11-20 Niagara Falls, ON | I posted this on the bell, canadian and rodgers forums... I hope the links don't get deleted. | |
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  JayMan Whoot Premium join:2002-06-05 Earth | Will there be Punch, Pie and Timbits? | |
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  habskilla
join:2005-09-19 Moncton, NB | I need a ride.
Anyone passing through Moncton? -- GO LEAFS GO (all the way to the golf course) | |
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join:2007-11-20 Niagara Falls, ON | Also for promotion make a video on youtube about the protest, it is a great way to spread the word, epecially since it's interent related. | |
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join:2008-04-23 Ottawa, ON
| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! said by DjEclipse :Also for promotion make a video on youtube about the protest, it is a great way to spread the word, epecially since it's interent related. Great idea,I would if I had a digi on me. | |
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  CK_NotAnon
@teksavvy.com
| Hey Rockie,
Be sure to inform the parliment public relations people that you are planning a demonstration at Parliament.
You need to set it up with them first first. Only scheduled pre-approved demonstrations are permitted on Parliament Hill.
Regards, CK {:(B) | |
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  NeoStylez Cheers
join:2008-02-10 Peterborough, ON | hmm.. 167$ for a greyhound to Ottawa... nothx.. wish i had that kinda dough to spend...
would go though.. but coming from barrie.. i would have to leave the day before!! 7hour bus!!!! | |
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 |   Guspaz Guspaz Premium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC
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| Re: Protest on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, April 29th! That's nuts (and correct).
That is 529KM, or $0.32 per KM. It costs me $128.00 to get from Montreal to Providence (Rhode Island), 577KM, or $0.22 per KM (2/3 the price).
And my trip includes a border crossing, a ton of stopovers, and changing bus companies in Boston... | |
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| re: Bus fares.
Those fare engines don't discuss other options. Greyhound often has those $99 passes that let you travel all across canada for X days. (or they used to have). You need to hunt those down on the web sites or by calling.
You could also call your local MP and ask if he/she/it can provide transportation for you to demonstrate. | |
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