boognish
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Re: Dem contributing trial lawyers & election politics holdup
If they didn't do anything wrong then they shouldn't have anything to worry about. They should not be offered immunity and rewarded if what they did was wrong and they knew what they were doing was wrong. They have enough lawyers and are under enough regulations to know if what they did was kosher or not. It should not be about what party you are in or how you feel about spying and the war. We are a country governed by laws. There should not be a set of laws for one class or for one type of organization. It should be an even playing field and the same rules should be applied to everyone regardless of class, size, political leaning, or anything else. If they chose to ignore or bend the rules for someone then screw them now they can suffer the consonances.
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| said by boognish  :If they didn't do anything wrong then they shouldn't have anything to worry about. They should not be offered immunity and rewarded if what they did was wrong and they knew what they were doing was wrong. They have enough lawyers and are under enough regulations to know if what they did was kosher or not. It should not be about what party you are in or how you feel about spying and the war. We are a country governed by laws. There should not be a set of laws for one class or for one type of organization. It should be an even playing field and the same rules should be applied to everyone regardless of class, size, political leaning, or anything else. If they chose to ignore or bend the rules for someone then screw them now they can suffer the consonances. Well, I live in the real world and not in the fantasy land you apparently think we should live in. You are ignoring the "Golden Rule" - those who have the gold rule. That rule has controlled the world for thousands of years and nothing I have ever seen in governance around the world is going to change it.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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You are part of the cause of all of this if that is your attitude. The reason for that is because you sit back and let them get away with these things and refuse to try to change the ways when you actually have the power to do so. |
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1 edit | said by dsldude08 :You are part of the cause of all of this if that is your attitude. The reason for that is because you sit back and let them get away with these things and refuse to try to change the ways when you actually have the power to do so. I think you miss the point. I am on the side of those who rule - not on the side of the "great unwashed" masses.
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boognish
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If history has shown anything in the real world those that have the gold have to watch how they rule or the peasants revolt at some point.
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Totally agree, lets the courts review the case and make a decision based on the merits. |
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said by boognish :If history has shown anything in the real world those that have the gold have to watch how they rule or the peasants revolt at some point. All that does is switch around temporarily who are the lucky few with the money. A few unlucky ones lose their money and maybe their lives. But historically, even in "communist" societies, the rich win out and still control things.
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rit56
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everyone should note that you Mr. America are in favor of corporations violating the Constitution, breaking the law. they broke the law and should be punished, period. what don't you understand about this? they broke the law and it is a known fact... the telecoms were handing this information over before 9 11 and it did nothing to stop 9 11. they were spying on ordinary citizens who differed in their politics. they broke the law. |
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rit56
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and in your posts you sound like a communist. |
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| said by rit56 :and in your posts you sound like a communist. I think you need to read up on definitions of communist and capitalist. |
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lg75
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No we didn't miss the point. We get it. You think it is perfectly legal for someone to go into someone else's house, steal their wallet and get away with it... Good point you make there. |
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said by TKJunkMail :I think you need to read up on definitions of communist and capitalist. And I think you need to read up on the definitions of capitalists and "criminal behavior" |
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And what did AT&T steal from you by tapping foreign phone calls traversing the US or where 1 end terminates in a foreign country?
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Name a successful revolution since machine guns were invented. Outside assistance from another power doesn't count.
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Now you're the one missing the point. It's illegal for someone to come into someone else's house and steal. Just like it's illegal for the cops to come into your house WITHOUT a WARRANT. That's why we have laws in this country. Nowhere in the law does it say that AT&T is immune from it. |
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said by TKJunkMail And what did AT&T steal from you by tapping foreign phone calls traversing the US or where 1 end terminates in a foreign country?
And according to the RIAA, the illegal interception of a digital transmission would be piracy. |
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said by TKJunkMail :Well, I live in the real world and not in the fantasy land you apparently think we should live in. You are ignoring the "Golden Rule" - those who have the gold rule. That rule has controlled the world for thousands of years and nothing I have ever seen in governance around the world is going to change it. Or in more current context... those that have the Oil, rule. Which country 'owns' us right now? Saudi Arabia and Iraq.
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said by TKJunkMail :And what did AT&T steal from you by tapping foreign phone calls traversing the US or where 1 end terminates in a foreign country? In the physical world (and in the virtual world, since around 1986) breaking and entering is illegal on its face. So is a common carrier or other electronic service disclosing your private communications without a warrant.
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james
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Not to invoke Godwin's Law, but... |
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