salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO
| Gentoo revokes developer rights of 3, Cabal suspected.
More trouble brewing in the Gentoo community. Three different developers were "involuntarily retired". Why? Unless you're a member of The Cabal, its a secret. However, all 3 are Paludis developers. The project is run is the notorious ex-developer Ciaran McCreesh, aka ciaranm, who himself had his developer rights revoked under less-than-transparent circumstances. Gentoo has been suffering from a lack of developers for quite some time. This is yet another divisive blow to the Gentoo community. Read more about it in Planet Gentoo. |
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Cabal
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| said by salahx  :Gentoo revokes developer rights of 3, Cabal suspected. Lies!
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SUMware
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1 edit | said by Cabal :Lies! Prove it. Heh |
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firephoto
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join:2003-03-18 | reply to salahx
Good, he's a tool and was one of the main factors that led to the downfall of Gentoo. He should of been gone and any traces of his projects scuttled long ago. |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
| reply to salahx
I don't know anything about this - what kinds of things will get your dev rights revoked?
Checking in too many bugs?
Not enough output?
Nailing the project leader's daughter?
Running Windows? 
I just have no idea how these circles work...
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GILXA1226
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join:2000-12-29
London, OH
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I really hope gentoo gets it's collective sh*t in order. I've been using it since before 1.0 days and have yet to find a distro (short of rolling my own with LFS) that easily allows me to do what I'm able to do with gentoo. Now of course this probably has to do with the fact that I've been using it for so long, but still. I've kept up-to-date VM's of SuSe and Ubuntu, however neither really pulls me in quite like Gentoo does.
That being said, I think if gentoo isn't able to get it's collective sh*t in order you'll probably see a fork happen soon before it's collapse.
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BeesTea
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00000 | reply to firephoto
Agreed.
I don't know the 3 latest to go, but if they're even close to as caustic as McCreesh, then good riddance.
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salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to salahx
I don't know what the story behind ciaranm, he does come off as pretty caustic. One of the things he said once was pretty funny though:
said by »www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@···809.html :
Your solution is approximately on par with fixing a wobbly chair by
sawing off all four legs and then attaching what's left to a crocodile.
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kleeman
Australian Expat
join:2000-07-29
Nyack, NY
1 edit | ROFLMAO
Heads off to the Gentoo forum...... |
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ghost16825
Use security metrics
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| reply to BeesTea
said by BeesTea :Agreed. I don't know the 3 latest to go, but if they're even close to as caustic as McCreesh, then good riddance. My thoughts precisely. |
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jdong
Eat A Beaver, Save A Tree.
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clubs:  | reply to salahx
Speaking from my Forums Council perspective, I am disappointed by the complete lack of transparency in the process though....
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jgkolt
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"Steve 2001-03-10 Tustin, CA Consultant 17550 1h28m reply to salahx
I just have no idea how these circles work..."
Go read the Cathedral and the bazaar and you will understand a bit better. |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
| said by jgkolt :Go read the Cathedral and the bazaar and you will understand a bit better. Um, that doesn't really speak to the personality issues in the Gentoo project |
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jgkolt
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clubs: | not specifically but it give a good picture on how open source projects work. |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
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Yorba Linda, CA
1 edit | Well, ok, but I've been involved in open source development for a very long time. Just not that project.
Steve -- who doesn't know who the "Cabal" is on any of his other projects |
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salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to salahx
Well, the Gentoo council met today , however, these wasn't enough time (among other things) to discuss the "enforced retirement" issue .The Council will be holding another meeting next week at the same time for this issue. The actual appeals won't be held then however. Apparently, until now, no one has ever appealed. |
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jdong
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| said by salahx :Well, the Gentoo council met today , however, these wasn't enough time (among other things) to discuss the "enforced retirement" issue .The Council will be holding another meeting next week at the same time for this issue. The actual appeals won't be held then however. Apparently, until now, no one has ever appealed. It sounds to me the council has issues prioritizing too... I would expect this kind of a conflict to take front and center at a meeting.
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salahx
join:2001-12-03
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to salahx
The meeting was today, unfortunately only 2 of the 7 council members showed, and according to their own rules (GLEP 39), if less than 50% of the council is present for a meetings, the entire council must be re-elected. (However the council already met this month, so there's debate as to whether or not this should apply).
Like the Gentoo Project needs any MORE chaos. |
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jdong
Eat A Beaver, Save A Tree.
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clubs: | reply to salahx
Doesn't inspire confidence...  |
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GILXA1226
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join:2000-12-29
London, OH
clubs: | reply to salahx
Like DRobbins or not, at least when he was running crap there was continuity. The more and more sh*t that goes on with gentoo the more I seriously start to consider a fork. |
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