TamaraB
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Re: Con Edison Electric Rates
said by Gog123  :The rate varies month by month and is different for commercial and residential customers. ... Well, my rates question is related to resale. I live aboard a boat at a dock. The doc owner resells electricity via meter to boats docked at his dock. He is not an ESCO. When he figures out our individual rates, he adds the electric cost to the demand charge (whatever that is), divides it by the KW/hrs used and comes up with a very high rate; nearly $0.30/KW/hr. Now, this "demand charge" is usually higher than the actual electric charge.
I haven't bought residential electricity for several years, but I have second hand information which indicates the rate is somewhere around $0.10/KWhr.
I am looking to see if and by how much I am being ripped off by this crook, or at least understand why I am paying 3X the electric rate other residents of the city pay.
Can he just charge whatever he wants? Can he jack up the price despite it being a regulated utility?
Bob
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Stacy
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| It's complicated. According to my March to April bill, I used 266 kwh @ 11.0601¢ per kwh plus 71¢ tax. So the supply charge came out to $31.13
In addition, ConEd charged a basic delivery charge of $12.42, plus $19.41 to deliver the 266 kwh I used, plus a SBC/RPS charge of 64¢ and sales tax @ 4% of $2.57. So the total delivery charge worked out to $34.10
Add that together and the total electric charge, at the residential/religious rate, came out to $66.80 for 30 days.
Overall I paid an average of 25¢ per kwh but I wouldn't presume you could interpolate that into 500 kwh would cost $125, or even that my 266 kwh will cost the same amount next month. |
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TamaraB
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| said by Stacy :It's complicated. You're right. It's complicated. Seems designed so one could never check the accuracy of the bill, let alone shop around for a better rate.
Thanks
Bob
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Gog123
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Yes the owner of the Marina or slip can charge whatever he wants for providing electricity to you I presume if you are not being billed by the utility directly.
If you own a boat and need electricity then you need to shop for slips and electric fees if this concerns you. The owner is not a crook, as you can freely shop marinas/docks and slips and the like.
Another alternative would be to convert the boat to solar and to possibly find a slip which would allow you to sell back electricity to the utility company if such is possible. |
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| I was once told by someone (actually a professor of a physics "energy" elective course I once took) that there's a law which requires the utilities to buy your electric, should you generate it. If this is true, then it stands to reason that almost ALL meters manufactured would spin in reverse, and the normal hookups would accept the "back flow". It would seem that the owner of the slip might not have a choice but to accept the electric (or at the very least watch his meter slow to a crawl).
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| »news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker···ymbol=ED
They buyback at 13.6 cents
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said by TamaraB :said by Stacy :It's complicated. You're right. It's complicated. Seems designed so one could never check the accuracy of the bill, let alone shop around for a better rate. Thanks Bob If you think that's complicated just wait till the summer surcharge kicks in. ConEd also has flat rate billing but they seem to estimate payments based on the most expensive months.
The total cost of having a single meter may be cheaper than multiple meters. The marina probably only has to pay the basic charges once and additional kwh, past a certain point, may be billed at a lower rate. That might give the marina a little wiggle room to eak out a profit but even that might get eaten up by bookkeeping. |
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