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drchud
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| nasty bug with moto lately
for the past several weeks my moto has failed to record many programs. here's the situation:
I have series recordings set up for non-network shows like miami ink, american chopper, greek (there's a few others as well but i cant remember which ones right now). anyway these shows first air during prime time when i have network shows scheduled to record. in my scheduled recordings it shows the conflict and shows that its not going to record the non-network shows as the main network shows are of a higher priority. Now usually these non-network shows have a 2nd airing later that same night. so it makes sense to just go schedule it to record the later airings of them. thing is, for the past 2-3 weeks, they have not recorded.
here's what happened tonight. the 8:00 airing of american chopper was in conflict with some network shows my wife watches during that time slot. i went to the guide and found the 10:00 airing of american chopper and scheduled it to record ( i did this this early in the evening at like 6:00). so 10:45 rolls around and im working on my computer and i notice that there is no record light on the dvr indicating that something is being recorded. american chopper should have been recording for 45 minutes already. so i go into the scheduled recordings and see TO BE ANNOUNCED at 10:00 on TLC-HD. this SHOULD have been american chopper but it failed to record. i also had miami ink scheduled to record the 2nd airing. thought i better cancel the schedule recording and reschedule it (the 11:00 airing). i checked at 1:55 and it was scheduled to record still. 11:15 comes around and nothing is recording and nothing is in the scheduled recordings.
sorry this is so long but i wanted to explain it as clearly as possible. this is pissing me off. as i said its been going on for like 3 weeks now. anyone else experiencing this? | |
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| The issue is you are trying to record a show your DVR was going to record anyway. This happens to me with some shows. If the show is repeated later that same night, such as Monk or Psych on USA HD at 9pm and 1am the next day both show as new. Your DVR was going to record that next non-network show anyway as they both show new. I've noticed USA HD and some other non-network channels only mark their shows repeats after the first week of airing. Then the DVR won't record other episodes. Next time just try letting the DVR do its thing and see if it records the non-network show after missing it due to conflicts. | |
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| reply to drchud
Depending on which model you have the link below may be of some help. Be advised that you will lose any settings and all recorded programs on the DVR hard drive. Also I'm not responsible if your Motorola unit decides to blow up. However if you have this exact model the solution could resolve any issues your seeing.
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Springfield, IL | You should not have to reset the box. Remember, the box is authorized from the Head end for being a DVR, and it may be something that has to be done from the office, not something that the Leasor can do. | |
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| reply to drchud
FWIW, my box decided not to record American Idol on Wednesday, but it recorded it on Tuesday, which is correct according to the season pass.
Luckily it was just the elimination episode... so I just looked online and saw that Brooke White was kicked off. | |
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In my 3 years with the Comcast Moto boxes (had a 6412, 6412-III, and two 3416s), I found them to be terribly unreliable at recording what I'd scheduled. I attempted to figure out why they wouldn't record something that I'd scheduled but could never come up with a definitive answer. In a given week I could always count on it to not record at least one program that I had scheduled.
My old TiVO Series 2 is far more reliable, and it still has capabilities far beyond any of the Comcast offerings (I don't have HD). | |
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With that reply we could in fact take this thread way off topic. But myself and others have found that the gremlins within that exact model can be purged many times by using the method above. It has saved me the time and aggravation of a service call at least once. What may or may not be the case of course I'm not aware. In regards to what may or may not be set on the other end. What I can not argue about is a thing called results. I've seen what has helped customers in the past. Thus the reason I offered my suggestion.
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drchud
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| reply to reelbigfish
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i understand what you are saying and i will try it out this next week. but it makes no sense that the dvr acts this way. if anything, what it USED to do in this situation was record the 2nd airing on 2 tuners. (this used to happen to me until about 3 weeks ago when is suddenly wouldnt record it at all when i scheduled the 2nd airing). i would end up with the dvr recording american chopper on both tuners and both would show up in my recordings.
thanks though for you r advice ill give it a shot next week. | |
drchud
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Ok here goes.
tonight deadliest catch is showing up in the scheduled recordings but wont record because of a conflict. the same goes for Gene Simmons Family Jewels. I will NOT schedule the later recordings of these shows and hopefully the dvr will pick them up. | |
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| drchud,
you can change your series priority in the "Series Priority" of the MY-DVR section (menu). Without looking this up, I think it tells you when you go in there what button to use to move something down or up, let me know if you need help doing this and I'll take a closer look. The DVR has this priority list because it can only record 2 things at the same time; at the most. And if you are recording 2 things you won't be able to change the channel, since it only has 2 tuners, hence the box is a "Dual-Tuner".
This is similar if not better than most other brand DVR boxes. Motorolas are the prefered boxes for most major cable operators.
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| said by BSD24  : Motorolas are the prefered boxes for most major cable operators. You know, I always wondered why Motorola was the preferred box for digital cable. You can purchase these set tops and DVR's in Canada, legally at BestBuy, and the Scientific Atlanta ones are always a little cheaper than the Motorola. On the flipside, the Scientific Atlanta set tops are much more powerful.
Here's what I like most about the SA boxes (I've used SA SARA, SA Passport, and Motorola I-Guide.)
1. SA HD and DVR's allow for Native HD Resolution Pass through. 1080i channels can come over in 1080i. 720p channels can come over in 720p -- all without powering the box off and going into a menu screen every time you want to change the resolution. The Moto only lets you pick ONE HD resolution.. not both. IE) Convert all 720p channels to 1080i, or convert all 1080i channels to 720p. This triple conversion does loose quality... I've checked and 720p looks better on ESPN,Fox,ABC,etc.. while 1080i looks much crisper on CBS,Discovery,NBC,etc.. So on my TV my box is doing this:
Looks Soft and lost detail (Triple Conversion):
720p channel > Converted to 1080i > Converted to 768p at PDP
Looks really sharp and clear:
1080i channel > Passed through > Converted to 768p at PDP
or when set to 720P...
Looks Really sharp and clear:
720p channel > Passed through > Converted to 768p at PDP
Looks soft and lost detail (Triple Conversion):
1080i channel > Converted to 720p> Converted to 768p at PDP
Even DirecTV, Dish Network, and PACE set top boxes have multiple resolution selections available, allowing you to send the proper broadcasted format to your HDTV, without being touched. I, along with others have been posting this issue with Motorola boxes for well over a year now. I'm surprise no higher ups at various MSO's or even Motorola themselves haven't found these posts on these types of sites, or even through Google searches. The best thing a company can do (Comcast or even Motorola) is to scour the internet and get REAL WORLD user opinions, wishes and complaints. It only can better their products.
2. SA boxes just seem much faster than Motorola's. Not sure if it's because of the different CPU (Dual CPU's) and RAM, or if it's just easier to program for, since the PowerTV OS is heavily documented. My Motorola 6412 constantly freezes when navigating the controls. You have to sit there and wait for it to unfreeze all the time. Remote commands constantly get 'queued' up and executed all at once causing undesirable effects. I haven't heard this issue with SA boxes, and I never experienced it myself.
3. SA boxes support interactive applications. I've seen true Multi-Room DVR, iSubscribe (change services without even talking to a CSR), GAMES (even multiplayer games such as Texas Hold'em poker with other digital cable subscribers), Caller ID on TV, Interactive television, Guided remote control programming, etc. SA has all of this way before Motorola. In fact I've yet to see anything interactive on a Motorola box except for FIOS and Passport DCT 3.0.
4. SA boxes support Picture in Picture. If there's a dual tuner, and both tuners are not recording, might as well give customers this feature. Currently I am limited to analog PIP via my Samsung plasma TV, but many people don't have that ability on their TV, or they would like to have digital channel access in the PIP window.
5. SA boxes have a smaller footprint, therefore take up less room on a shelf or TV stand. I've always liked the fact that the SA boxes aren't as wide as the Motorola's. It's a nice neat little package.
6. SA has been in the cable business for many years. SA has more experience in real world CATV than Motorola. Granted Motorola acquired General Instruments, but SA gear was always superior. Even when I had an SA 8600X interactive analog box... it was way ahead of the General Instruments/Jerrold DPPV analog set tops. Seems like SA is just a few years ahead. Now with networking extraordinaries Cisco purchasing SA, we can expect some great interoperability patents from Cisco making their way into future products.
7. Even the SA SD set top boxes have an S-Video output! It's quite a gamble to get an SD Motorola box with an S-Video port, infact your odds are very slim (at least in the few different Moto cable companies around my area). Let's face it, S-Video is much better than Composite video! My DCT-700 in the bedroom can't use my Toshiba's S-Video port because it doesn't have one! The colors just seem washed out as opposed to when I had a DVR connected to that SD TV. No, I'm not going to pay extra for an HD box just for S-Video for an SDTV. S-Video should be standard, and at least SA got it right.
8. SA boxes have much more thorough diagnostic menus than the Motorola's. This extra information greatly assists cable operators and tech savy people into troubleshooting signal levels, and force tuning by source ID, QAM, PID, etc..
9. SA DVR's allow the user to attach an external SATA hard drive to expand the DVR recording space. It's simple to use and it JUST WORKS. PACE boxes have this ability too. What's up Motorola, need to hire someone to help get this working?
I've just been much more impressed with the SA boxes. From the smaller footprint, better looking box with green LED, and feature packed interactive guides. I've had fun playing games on them, I've enjoyed the cool guide animations (fade in's, out's, slides, zooms, etc..) and even sounds that are emitted from the box. Simple features such as S-Video and Digital audio output on SD Boxes are the icing to the cake. Last but not least native HD resolution ability is included along with a nice HDTV setup wizard is great for videophiles like myself who want to get the most out of their expensive flat panel HDTV's.
If you want an example of interactive programs on SA boxes, head over to Cablevision's site and check out their iO games, caller ID on screen and interactive mosaic channels. Head over to Time Warner or Brighthouse's site and check out their caller ID on screen, interactive channels (pull up sports scores, play fantasy football, card games and more).
SA is the way to go, and Motorola has been nothing but an utter disappointment. I only hope that there's some hidden potential in the Motorola set tops that can be unleashed with some talented programmers and new feature rich creative user interfaces. Perhaps the Gemstar I-Guide is the limiting factor? The Comcast/Tivo doesn't seem to be fairing too well either though... 3-5 minutes to set a series recording? Come on! Hopefully someone hacks the crap out of the Motorola box and firmware, and replaces it with something much easer to program for, and much more feature rich with better performance. Perhaps they are just underpowered though. Not sure how the Broadcom CPU stacks up against a RISC based PowerPC in the SA in a head to head computational battle. Ever use a DCT-2000? God that is just a horribly slow system to use. To think the Tan guide was even slower. Wow, we've come a long way. Let's hope they improve these things in the next few months.
If Comcast had a dual platform CA system here and I had the choice... I would pick up an SA DVR hands down, no questions asked. I know Comcast will never go this route though. But if Verizon FIOS TV became available, I would seriously consider switching because their guide looks so much more visually appealing, along with more features (widgets, games, multi room DVR, PC Media center connections, etc.) | |
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BDavis24
I understand that completely. i appreciate your trying to help. i WANT to record the network shows because they only show 1 time. the discovery/tlc shows usually air 2 times a night. so i SHOULD be able to record the network shows and then pick up the later showings of the discovery shows. problem is the dvr is not doing it.
last night there ws a conflict with deadliest catch and miami ink because of abc and cbs shows. i didnt manually schedule them to record the 2nd airing becacuse in the past, this didnt work (see original post). nothing recorded again.
ive been a cc customer for a long time and have used the moto boxes for as long. i understand how yo use them, infact i know more than some techs who have been in my house (tried hooking up coax form hd box to the hdtv, no knowledge of hidden menu for setting display, checking snr, etc).
I know how to use the box. theres too many bugs with this thing.
i was talking to my brother the other day, a direct tv customer explaining this all to him, he laughed and said dtv has already had 3-4 HARDWARE (BOX) upgrades and comcast is still using the same old box with the same guide.
makes oyu wonder. | |
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said by cypherstream :said by BSD24 : Motorolas are the prefered boxes for most major cable operators. You know, I always wondered why Motorola was the preferred box for digital cable. You can purchase these set tops and DVR's in Canada, legally at BestBuy, and the Scientific Atlanta ones are always a little cheaper than the Motorola. On the flipside, the Scientific Atlanta set tops are much more powerful. Here's what I like most about the SA boxes (I've used SA SARA, SA Passport, and Motorola I-Guide.) 1. SA HD and DVR's allow for Native HD Resolution Pass through. 1080i channels can come over in 1080i. 720p channels can come over in 720p -- all without powering the box off and going into a menu screen every time you want to change the resolution. The Moto only lets you pick ONE HD resolution.. not both. IE) Convert all 720p channels to 1080i, or convert all 1080i channels to 720p. This triple conversion does loose quality... I've checked and 720p looks better on ESPN,Fox,ABC,etc.. while 1080i looks much crisper on CBS,Discovery,NBC,etc.. So on my TV my box is doing this: Looks Soft and lost detail (Triple Conversion): 720p channel > Converted to 1080i > Converted to 768p at PDP Looks really sharp and clear: 1080i channel > Passed through > Converted to 768p at PDP or when set to 720P... Looks Really sharp and clear: 720p channel > Passed through > Converted to 768p at PDP Looks soft and lost detail (Triple Conversion): 1080i channel > Converted to 720p> Converted to 768p at PDP Even DirecTV, Dish Network, and PACE set top boxes have multiple resolution selections available, allowing you to send the proper broadcasted format to your HDTV, without being touched. I, along with others have been posting this issue with Motorola boxes for well over a year now. I'm surprise no higher ups at various MSO's or even Motorola themselves haven't found these posts on these types of sites, or even through Google searches. The best thing a company can do (Comcast or even Motorola) is to scour the internet and get REAL WORLD user opinions, wishes and complaints. It only can better their products. 2. SA boxes just seem much faster than Motorola's. Not sure if it's because of the different CPU (Dual CPU's) and RAM, or if it's just easier to program for, since the PowerTV OS is heavily documented. My Motorola 6412 constantly freezes when navigating the controls. You have to sit there and wait for it to unfreeze all the time. Remote commands constantly get 'queued' up and executed all at once causing undesirable effects. I haven't heard this issue with SA boxes, and I never experienced it myself. 3. SA boxes support interactive applications. I've seen true Multi-Room DVR, iSubscribe (change services without even talking to a CSR), GAMES (even multiplayer games such as Texas Hold'em poker with other digital cable subscribers), Caller ID on TV, Interactive television, Guided remote control programming, etc. SA has all of this way before Motorola. In fact I've yet to see anything interactive on a Motorola box except for FIOS and Passport DCT 3.0. 4. SA boxes support Picture in Picture. If there's a dual tuner, and both tuners are not recording, might as well give customers this feature. Currently I am limited to analog PIP via my Samsung plasma TV, but many people don't have that ability on their TV, or they would like to have digital channel access in the PIP window. 5. SA boxes have a smaller footprint, therefore take up less room on a shelf or TV stand. I've always liked the fact that the SA boxes aren't as wide as the Motorola's. It's a nice neat little package. 6. SA has been in the cable business for many years. SA has more experience in real world CATV than Motorola. Granted Motorola acquired General Instruments, but SA gear was always superior. Even when I had an SA 8600X interactive analog box... it was way ahead of the General Instruments/Jerrold DPPV analog set tops. Seems like SA is just a few years ahead. Now with networking extraordinaries Cisco purchasing SA, we can expect some great interoperability patents from Cisco making their way into future products. 7. Even the SA SD set top boxes have an S-Video output! It's quite a gamble to get an SD Motorola box with an S-Video port, infact your odds are very slim (at least in the few different Moto cable companies around my area). Let's face it, S-Video is much better than Composite video! My DCT-700 in the bedroom can't use my Toshiba's S-Video port because it doesn't have one! The colors just seem washed out as opposed to when I had a DVR connected to that SD TV. No, I'm not going to pay extra for an HD box just for S-Video for an SDTV. S-Video should be standard, and at least SA got it right. 8. SA boxes have much more thorough diagnostic menus than the Motorola's. This extra information greatly assists cable operators and tech savy people into troubleshooting signal levels, and force tuning by source ID, QAM, PID, etc.. 9. SA DVR's allow the user to attach an external SATA hard drive to expand the DVR recording space. It's simple to use and it JUST WORKS. PACE boxes have this ability too. What's up Motorola, need to hire someone to help get this working? I've just been much more impressed with the SA boxes. From the smaller footprint, better looking box with green LED, and feature packed interactive guides. I've had fun playing games on them, I've enjoyed the cool guide animations (fade in's, out's, slides, zooms, etc..) and even sounds that are emitted from the box. Simple features such as S-Video and Digital audio output on SD Boxes are the icing to the cake. Last but not least native HD resolution ability is included along with a nice HDTV setup wizard is great for videophiles like myself who want to get the most out of their expensive flat panel HDTV's. If you want an example of interactive programs on SA boxes, head over to Cablevision's site and check out their iO games, caller ID on screen and interactive mosaic channels. Head over to Time Warner or Brighthouse's site and check out their caller ID on screen, interactive channels (pull up sports scores, play fantasy football, card games and more). SA is the way to go, and Motorola has been nothing but an utter disappointment. I only hope that there's some hidden potential in the Motorola set tops that can be unleashed with some talented programmers and new feature rich creative user interfaces. Perhaps the Gemstar I-Guide is the limiting factor? The Comcast/Tivo doesn't seem to be fairing too well either though... 3-5 minutes to set a series recording? Come on! Hopefully someone hacks the crap out of the Motorola box and firmware, and replaces it with something much easer to program for, and much more feature rich with better performance. Perhaps they are just underpowered though. Not sure how the Broadcom CPU stacks up against a RISC based PowerPC in the SA in a head to head computational battle. Ever use a DCT-2000? God that is just a horribly slow system to use. To think the Tan guide was even slower. Wow, we've come a long way. Let's hope they improve these things in the next few months. If Comcast had a dual platform CA system here and I had the choice... I would pick up an SA DVR hands down, no questions asked. I know Comcast will never go this route though. But if Verizon FIOS TV became available, I would seriously consider switching because their guide looks so much more visually appealing, along with more features (widgets, games, multi room DVR, PC Media center connections, etc.) You should talk to all the complainers that are stuck with Scietific Atlanta. Although I bet you you would lose the argument with them. Besides the fact you have to wait 3-10minutes for a SA box to load versus 30-90 seconds for a Moto, and world-known defects with all SA boxes (locks up saying "You are not authorized", fix is simple reboot the box by unplugging pwr cord and plugging back in then waiting up to 15 minutes for it to come back online). Some of the defects have been going on for years un-resolved. And sorry but Verizon FIOS uses Motorola too, I wonder why. Its funny you like the Fios guide too, cause although the guide isn't bad, the on-demand menu is a mess! | |
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| I'm sure now that Cisco took over the failing Scietific Atlanta Cable box manufacturer which you love so horribly, I'm sure they will succeed finally in fixing their 4+ year issues and improve performance overall. Comcast has some of the brand new models for the SA-BOX markets (communities with SA-based systems), which you will see are labeled Cisco and Comcast (logos) on front of the new boxes. The future is unknown, but is definatly coming. | |
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Well I'd rather sacrifice a few minutes booting up for the ability to have native HD resolution pass through, games, searchable on demand, caller ID on screen, PIP, eSATA hard drive connectivity for expanding DVR storage, all in a smaller lighter box. Plus I love the Passport system I've used in North East PA. Passtime and Buzztime Games are real slick, Multi-Room DVR, channel logo's, fast guide user interface with no freezing like on my Motorola. Heck you push a button and stuff slides or fades gracefully into view. This helps bring the attention to key points on the screen, and adds polish to the interface. It's user interface 101... need help? Ask apple, or heck, play around with the Nintendo Wii menus. I think this past weekend I heard my Girlfriend go "F#@! Comcast!" because the Motorola froze on a Salsa music channel and she had to wait for it to unfreeze. It does this far too often.
Again, do all of the loading in the beginning, much like a computer, and I'll be fine with that. I've seen the Aptiv Passport boot up on an SA 3200 on Blue Ridge Cable, and it honestly wasn't that bad. Our system used Scientific Atlanta for all of their analog needs, and as soon as Comcast installed digital cable they rolled out Motorolas. Sure they do get the job done, but they are really frustrating to use.
If you could just pass those comments forward I would appreciate it.
The number 1 issue is the constant freezing when navigating anything.
Number 2 would be allow selectable resolution's like every other HD box on the market.
Number 3 would be to bring the guide up to snuff and make it look modern. Give it the ability to find programs easier. If I search for a program, actor/actress, genre, I should see not only linear TV channels in my results, but on demand listings as well. I should be able to have multi-room DVR. I should be able to get caller ID on screen with my Triple Play service. I should be able to play some poker games with other people on the network. I should be able to set my DVR to record over the internet or check and manage conflicts from any PC. There's just a whole lot of potential out there that's not being tapped into. If were waiting for Tru2Way, fine. I just hope that the very limited hardware in the Motorola set tops can handle this sort of thing.
I have to admit, the new Motorola DCX series set tops look nice. 1 Ghz tuners, MPEG4 ability, and hopefully **crosses fingers** larger hard drive support. Hey I can buy a 500GB drive for $80 at Tiger Direct. Lets see something closer to that in size for the DVR, then I don't even need eSATA ability. 120GB was fine for SD recordings, but now it's a little cramped for HD recordings. Heck they could transcode everything into H.264 when storing it to the hard drive to save even more space.
I'm not trying to direct any negativity towards you BDavis... I'm just a frustrated user stuck with an archaic Motorola box (wait.. is it the box or the software...?) I don't mean to take that frustration out on your or anyone here... I just want to vent my own opinions (yes everyone has them), and perhaps some talented developers can fix and make the Motorola platform better. Tivo's even having a tough time with it but hopefully theres a group out there somewhere that can really polish this platform and go through it with a fine toothed comb. Remember, there is ALWAYS room for improvement. | |
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said by drchud :i was talking to my brother the other day, a direct tv customer explaining this all to him, he laughed and said dtv has already had 3-4 HARDWARE (BOX) upgrades and comcast is still using the same old box with the same guide. makes oyu wonder. Umm actually there was two recent upgrades last year, maybe some of the updates and upgrades you don't notice, because they don't redesign the entire guide everytime (waste of time and money), but rather they enhance and add features to the Motorola System as well as fix bugs from previous versions. There is a new guide/system upgrade that will be taking place once again (1 of 5 in the last 2 years). Its guide version A25, which will have many new features and enhancements. As far as "same old boxes" - umm the boxes are always re-used, Comcast only scraps boxes usually when they are broken beyond repair. But there are new boxes, DCH models like the 3416 which has a very sleek look on the outside and are brand spanking new. Comcast is always getting new orders from Motorola, and as Motorola comes out with new models that have more capabilities in them we obtain those too. So your brother who works for DirecTV obviously knows more about DirecTV boxes than Comcast Cable boxes.
Look for the new "A25" guide to be released within the next 1-5 months depending on what region of Comcast you are in. In most areas of New Hampshire for instance, they already have the new upgrade to A25. | |
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| Should I also mention that Motorola has automatic Pass-Through unless a previous/current owner changes the HD settings on the box through the secret HD settings menu. The cable box will send what it gets to the tv, so program showing in 720p, like espnhd, etc.. will go through to the TV in 720p. | |
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| said by BSD24 :Should I also mention that Motorola has automatic Pass-Through unless a previous/current owner changes the HD settings on the box through the secret HD settings menu. The cable box will send what it gets to the tv, so program showing in 720p, like espnhd, etc.. will go through to the TV in 720p. Can you tell me how to set up Automatic HD pass through?
I only have the following options available:
480i , 480p, 720p, 1080i
How can I select both 720p and 1080i, and there is no "Auto" setting.
OR is this a new feature with I-Guide A25?
I do the setup through Power off, then Menu. | |
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| said by cypherstream :said by BSD24 :Should I also mention that Motorola has automatic Pass-Through unless a previous/current owner changes the HD settings on the box through the secret HD settings menu. The cable box will send what it gets to the tv, so program showing in 720p, like espnhd, etc.. will go through to the TV in 720p. Can you tell me how to set up Automatic HD pass through? I only have the following options available: 480i , 480p, 720p, 1080i How can I select both 720p and 1080i, and there is no "Auto" setting. OR is this a new feature with I-Guide A25? I do the setup through Power off, then Menu. Good question, there is no auto-setting. The box default is Automatic. When ESPN is broadcasting in 720p, the box (when tuned to ESPN) will transmit the signal to your tv to 720p. | |
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| But when I push the Info button on my TV remote, even when tuned to ESPN HD, I see:
HDMI 1
1920 x 1080 i
And ESPN HD looks soft. In fact every channel shows 1920 x 1080 i unless I change it in the Motorola box by powering it off and pushing menu.
If I switch the Motorola's output to 720P, then on ESPN HD (and every HD channel for that matter), I push the info button on my TV remote and see:
HDMI 1
1280 x 720 p
ESPN, Fox, National Geographic, ABC, A&E HD all look crystal clear, but then stuff like NBC HD, Discovery HD, Mojo, look much softer. It's because they are being picked up as 1080i from the box, but then the box is converting it to 720p. Why, who knows? I guess because I can't select both 720P and 1080i in the setup menu.
Sure the box decodes both, but it only allows one type of HD resolution to be sent out the component and hdmi/dvi output. I would set mine to auto if possible so that I don't loose quality by inducing a 'triple' conversion effect. This is just something that DirecTV, Dish Network, Tivo HD/S3, SA/Cisco, and Pace set top users take for granted.
If the I-Guide A25 includes an updated firmware from Motorola that addresses this, then by all means, I'll be looking VERY forward to it. | |
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