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chadrob30
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Bears' Benson Dazzles Again...

Man, this guy has it going on!

»sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=a···ype=lgns
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He's classy.

I hope one day the leagues take a stand against their troublesome employees. I commend Paul Tagliabue for what he's done with Pacman Jones.


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It wasn't necessary to pepper spray him. The police could have chased him and he would've fallen down in 2.7 yards.


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said by fatness See Profile :

It wasn't necessary to pepper spray him. The police could have chased him and he would've fallen down in 2.7 yards.
LOL!
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said by ariesguy See Profile :

He's classy.

I hope one day the leagues take a stand against their troublesome employees. I commend Paul Tagliabue for what he's done with Pacman Jones.
uhh that wasn't Tags.. That was Roger Goodell.
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said by MuDvAyNe See Profile :

said by ariesguy See Profile :

He's classy.

I hope one day the leagues take a stand against their troublesome employees. I commend Paul Tagliabue for what he's done with Pacman Jones.
uhh that wasn't Tags.. That was Roger Goodell.
Yeah.. that's what I meant.


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Many companies keep troublesome employees when they make their company a lot more money than they cost their company. There's a lot of drunk and drug addict Wall Street bankers out there who will have a chair as long as they keep raking in the millions for their firms.
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No doubt about that. But of all employers, the NFL doesn't need most of it's people. With the exception of top QBs and the top few at each position, the league is basically plug & play. The likes of Benson, Travis Henry, Pacman Jones.. these people wouldn't be missed.


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The problem is that if you try and permanently suspend these people, they have a good argument for a monster lawsuit, not to mention a grievance from the union. Someone is always going to sign these guys.
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said by The Dv8or See Profile :

The problem is that if you try and permanently suspend these people, they have a good argument for a monster lawsuit, not to mention a grievance from the union. Someone is always going to sign these guys.
What would the argument be? Most work places will fire you if you test positive for illegal drugs. The NFL/NBA/MLB could be no different if they wanted to.. They just don't want to do it. They allow their employees to do the things they do and then they wonder why these things keep happening.


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said by The Dv8or See Profile :

The problem is that if you try and permanently suspend these people, they have a good argument for a monster lawsuit, not to mention a grievance from the union. Someone is always going to sign these guys.
Can't see that happening in football, at least not now. Players union is too weak.


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The argument is that these people are under contract at the time, and if you permanently suspend them without coming up with a wicked good reason, they can argue breach of contract.

If they dont have a contract and no team signs them, they could sue for collusion. To legitimately have a way for all teams not to sign a player that demonstrates athletic capability over something like drug use or other indiscretion would require collective bargaining.
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said by The Dv8or See Profile :

The argument is that these people are under contract at the time, and if you permanently suspend them without coming up with a wicked good reason, they can argue breach of contract.

If they dont have a contract and no team signs them, they could sue for collusion. To legitimately have a way for all teams not to sign a player that demonstrates athletic capability over something like drug use or other indiscretion would require collective bargaining.
Obviously, if there's a contract that's a whole other matter.. but remember in this case, NFL contracts are not guaranteed. Players get cut all the time.

Collusion? I think that's a big stretch. If the NFL (the parent company) says someone is banned/suspended, there is no collusion. All teams fall under their rule.

Just because a player can play well, doesn't mean anyone has to employ him.

The unions. If the leagues pushed a tougher player conduct policy, I don't think the unions could publicly support their players breaking all these laws with no/little penalty.


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There's another side of the story: Cedric Benson's side.

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Benson said he did not resist arrest and was not boating while intoxicated.

Benson said he and a dozen family members and friends, including his mother, took his 37-foot boat out for the second time this spring. And for the second time, he was pulled over by police, Benson said. "We were in a cove with a lot of other boats filled with young people partying," Benson said. There was alcohol on board his boat but he was not drunk, Benson said. When police boarded to check if the boat met all safety standards, it did -- enough life jackets for everyone on board, working fire extinguisher and a proper license, Benson said.

"I get pulled over every time I take my boat out," Benson said. "It's Austin, Texas. They know me."

Benson said an officer asked him to board the police boat for an abbreviated sobriety test during which he recited the alphabet. Benson said he recited it without any mistakes. He said he was also asked to count forward and backward "at least 20 times." Benson said he kept asking the officers why they were doing this, while the police boat slowly drove away from where his own boat was parked.

Benson said that after the abbreviated sobriety test, the officer didn't charge him or say he'd failed the test, but that they wanted to take him in to land for more testing. "Why? I've passed every test," Benson said he asked the officer. Benson said he was polite, even calling the officer "sir," and that he never cursed or yelled until the officer suddenly put down his flashlight and pepper sprayed him in the eyes. At that point, Benson started yelling for his mother, but was so far away from his own boat no one could hear, Benson said.

With regard to the police claim that Benson refused to wear a life jacket, Benson said he was never offered one. He said police threw one over his head before departing the boat.

Benson said he was carried and dragged to a squad car once reaching land, but not because he was resisting officers. He said it was because his ankles and feet were kicked out from under him, and so he couldn't walk. Benson said he pleaded with police. "Please sir, let me just walk off the boat like a man," Benson said he told the officer.

Benson said he was repeatedly sprayed in the face with a water hose until he could no longer speak. Benson said he begged the officer to stop.
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Wow...that's crazy.I'm interested to see how this turns out now. Thanks for the link.
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well i heard on espn news before that one of his friends a woman was scared for her life on the boat and called her father saying to call the police because "My black friend is being beat up"... (Weird since it was the police to begin with..) She also claimed that her fiance took pictures of the beating so this could be interesting. Seems like this is shaping out to be another case of Police thinking they are above everything. I guess only time will tell.
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Cartwright, an English major at the University of Texas who is to graduate later this month, estimated she and her fiance had been boating with Benson six times this spring and each time a Lower Colorado River Authority boat pulled them over for a safety check.
According to Cartwright, she had consumed one beer and Benson had two drinks.
Also: »sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3385156
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More eyewitnesses coming forward saying Benson was mistreated.
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