patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | reply to hottboiinnc
Re: Sprint, or Clearwire?
Sprint is a Tier 1, TWC and Comcast aren't, so if your looking for cheap bandwidth for the new Clearwire, goto Sprint. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Tier one doesn't mean you have easy fiber access in all areas, though.
For example, here is a map of the tier 1 AOL Transit Data Network (ATDN's website is hilariously outdated, so it may have changed since 2003): »www.atdn.net/images/usa.gif |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
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Just because TWC and CC arent global doesnt mean their not a Tier1 provider in the US. they own their own network; most of their traffic stays on their network. you can easily get a fiber connection from TWC or Comcast and only take a couple hops to the Internet to where you're going.
You don't need a global network to be tier1. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| TWC and CC dont serve datacenters, and they don't have commercial web hosting on them, and you can't buy their bandwidth in peering hotels, and they don't sell bandwidth on 95th percentile, and even Comcast admits, and personally I've seen on traceroutes on TWC, that CC and TWC don't even link their own markets together on their internal network, I see stuff go out on my TWC modem, go onto Level 3, then onto another TWC modem in a different market. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | That's your market. The Ohio Markets are all peered together. You should know by now that everything TWC does is by market or by state. Not my some guy sitting in NYC or VA. And TWC does do commercial web hosting. |
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JamesPC
join:2005-10-12
Orange, CA | Yep, here in Cali it will stay on the rr.com network if the destination is in the state. If not it will hop on the Level3 network for long haul. |
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VansHSI
join:2005-01-29
America
1 edit | reply to hottboiinnc
Tier 1 network is not defined by being a global network.
The best definition of a tier 1 network is one that can reach every other network on the Internet without purchasing IP transit.
That does not include Time Warner as they purchase transit from Sprint Nextel/Level 3. I'm not saying they have a bum network at all but they pay for transit for a reason, because they can't do it.
There is a reason why they don't offer full service based solutions to major class enterprises, because they can't do it from a national and global perspective. |
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