said by Glenn :

I can't wait until people start taking a real, logical, scientific, non hyped look at "global warming."

said by pleekmo :

Are you willing to bet that we will not reach a runaway greenhouse...?

said by pleekmo :

I hate to tell you this, but the logic of the situation is this:

The best belief of many (most) of the world's scientists is that at current levels of increase in carbon dioxide the Earth will soon experience a runaway moist greenhouse (that is, the Earth would end up with a climate similar to Venus'), after which THERE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WE COULD DO TO STOP IT.

So the point of the matter is that we can act now to ensure by reducing our greenhouse emissions to a safe level that we do not reach this point. I repeat, after we reach the point of runaway greenhouse there will be absolutely nothing we could do about it.

We can act now to make sure we never have this happen or we can do nothing and possibly extinquish most, if not all, life from Earth.

Are you willing to bet that we will not reach a runaway greenhouse or are you willing to do something to make certain that it never happens?

said by signmeuptoo :

Surely we are as good as the German people, no?

said by signmeuptoo :

...throwing insults at me just proves what kind of people [you are], too.

said by gregamy :

No point in getting offended. We're mostly attacking your silly ideas, not your personality. We don't think you're any more mental than, say, the guys that used to stand on the street corner with signs reading "Repent! The End of the World is Nigh!", for example.

Dude, know what's nice about the United States versus, say, your beloved socialist Germany? We're free people. We're free to believe what we want. Right or wrong, we can believe that the sky is pink and that daffodils come out of an opossum's butts, and probably not get a second glance.

And, it's even codified in the First Amendment to the United Stated Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." You are free to believe whatever religious fervor you want, without hassles from the government. But, guess what? So am I. If you want to worship on the alter of Mother Earth, have at it. If I want to worship on the alter of the "Supreme Being of Internal Combustion (Presented by Mobil 1)", I can.

But guess what, Part Two? Neither one of us has the right to mandate those beliefs on the other. And neither one of us has the right to be free of disagreement or ridicule from the other. You are free to come in to this topic and give us your opinion; we'll all read it. But don't expect us to accept it as our own gospel and change our evil ways.

I'm not going to debate the merits/dismerits of the Church of Global Warming; frankly, I don't care. I personally think you're bonkers and/or brainwashed, and if it really bothers you that a total stranger doesn't automatically believe what you believe, especially when that belief is filled with apocalyptic futures that will happen if we don't change our evil ways, then that's a pretty sure sign that it's a religion. And you're entitled to it. And I'm entitled to be free from it.

As long as you practice your religion in private and don't force it on me, I'm good with it. Have fun. But when you start cramming it in my face, mandating that I believe - or worse, start using the power of the government to force it upon me by taking away my free will to make my own informed decisions - NOW we gots a problem.

Try to convince me all you want, and you can sleep well knowing that someday you'll surely get to tell me "see, I told you so." But you've no right to take it any further than that... - GA