AsssEffect
@verizon.net
| reply to jgkolt
Re: wrong
How is this wrong??? (Your point is valid yet..)...getting their permission, every 9 days, to play a game you paid for. Do they reimburse you for your connection?
Every PC gamer I know either has a cablemodem, DSL or FIOS.
How do you get mods? Patches? Driver fixes? Updates? Multiplayer?
The point here is that they are using relabeled "malware" (ie Sony Rootkit...) as a way for it to phone home that it is legit. SECURom is a clamp. And they REQUIRE (on the box) an internet connection (although its not a multiplayer game)
(However, had they mentioned this BEFORE I pre-ordered it, I doubt I would have done so...)
Sell the title for $29 and it will move.
Selling it for $50 (still $10 less than 360 version and INCLUDES additional level that 360 owners paid extra for!)
and you better factor in lost sales to pirated versions.
Don't they get it?
BTW, I cancelled my pre-order. (I played it on the 360 and that is that). Mainly because I feel I, as a paying gamer, should not be held accountable for the miscreants that will pirate it. Bet the feature is cracked in two weeks anyway.
I got my $ back from Gamestop schmucks...  |
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jjcrandall
join:2004-01-01
Salt Lake City, UT
| I completely agree. Why is the PC industry plunging? Because they charge the same amount for a PC game as a 360 game, but they don't pay the licensing fees like they do with the PS3 or 360.
I NEVER, Pay more than 40 bucks for a game. That's not the sweet spot, it how it should be.
Games now off my list:
Spore - Sorry
Mass Effect - Sorry Again |
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quatrix
Premium
join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
| reply to AsssEffect
said by AsssEffect :
The point here is that they are using relabeled "malware" (ie Sony Rootkit...) as a way for it to phone home that it is legit. Come on, MALWARE? You're really stretching it. If this is malware, then so is the anti-virus program that auto-updates its virus definitions. |
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danawhitaker
Space...The Final Frontier
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join:2002-03-02
Urbandale, IA
 ·MSN
 ·Mediacom
| "Come on, MALWARE? You're really stretching it. If this is malware, then so is the anti-virus program that auto-updates its virus definitions."
Obviously a comment from someone who's never had multiple AV programs act like malware and continually try to auto-update even after the user checks "don't auto-update" a few dozen times. Or had an AV program delete a legitimate, software program that a user paid for because it decides that any FTP serving software must be malware or a trojan without even giving the user a chance to stop it.
But I digress. I'm afraid, sadly, that this crap won't fail. Why? Look at Steam. Plenty of people said Steam would fail, Half Life 2 would fail because of it, and Steam is still going strong. The average user is probably just going to let it attempt to connect to the internet as often as it wants and not pay attention to what it's doing. I, too, plan on cancelling my preorder for Spore, however, just as I refused to play Half-Life 2. Why? Because when I buy a game that's for offline play, I do NOT want to have to connect to the internet. Period. It doesn't matter that my PC is on 24/7 and on a cable connection. It's the principle of the matter. I'm sure they'll include this garbage in Sims 3 too when it comes out next year, so, sadly, I won't be playing that either. It really is a shame, because I built my new system under the premise that it would need to be able to handle whatever Sims 3 could throw at it. Oh well. Their loss. I'll find other games to play that don't make me feel like a criminal.
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disconnected
@snet.net
| reply to jjcrandall
Get ready for a big campaign, because the world of software is in the process of transitioning to an online, host-based model--your PC of the near future will be but a dumb terminal and you will rent ALL software use by the hour, online, requiring an internet connection to use any program.
I got this information from a Microsoft-certified programmer who works with everything from .NET to Silverlight.
The days of disc-based software are coming to an end. And the users won't have any say in the matter. |
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lordofwhee
join:2007-10-21
Everett, WA
| Pity that's a very, very wrong view.
Number one, a vast majority of users won't go for the "pay per use" pricing model.
Number two, those of us tech-savvy enough will simply break into the servers, copy the programs, and offer them for free download, with the appropriate patch.
Piracy will never stop, no matter what idiotic measures devs take (this, for instance, will be easily beaten probably before both games mentioned in the article are even officially released, given the current efficiency of cracking teams). I'm just waiting for the day people say, "To hell with paying for ideas and information, this kind of thing should be free." |
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Walter Dnes
join:2008-01-27
Thornhill, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to disconnected
said by disconnected :
I got this information from a Microsoft-certified programmer who works with everything from .NET to Silverlight.
The days of disc-based software are coming to an end. And the users won't have any say in the matter.
Wring, Wrang, Wrung, Wrong.
1) With all the ISP's moving to metered pay-by-the-byte billing ( see »Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage Fees ) people won't be able to afford it.
2) You're assuming that everybody actually has a fast broadband connection. Believe it or not, many people still don't.
3) The entire concept is illegal under HIPAA and under banking regulations. You don't want to even THINK about the military's reaction.
4) Are they gonna outlaw linux?
5) How much is Osama bin Laden paying Steve Ballmer to put this through? A suicide squad dressed as construction workers rents half-a-dozen backhoes, knocks out the lines to MS, Oracle, Adobe, etc, and the USA shuts down. Dohhhhh. |
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sivran
Long Live The Suite
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
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·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to disconnected
said by disconnected :
The days of disc-based software are coming to an end. And the users won't have any say in the matter.
If I had a nickel for every time I've heard that...
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MASantangelo
Premium
join:2004-07-19
Pittstown, NJ
| reply to danawhitaker
said by danawhitaker  :But I digress. I'm afraid, sadly, that this crap won't fail. Why? Look at Steam. Plenty of people said Steam would fail, Half Life 2 would fail because of it, and Steam is still going strong. The average user is probably just going to let it attempt to connect to the internet as often as it wants and not pay attention to what it's doing. The difference being that after the initial registration and activation of Half-Life 2 you can switch to Offline-Mode and never need to bother with activations and phone-home. Steam will NOT update the game or call home (from personal experience).
Spore and Mass Effect require an initial registration/activation, then a 10 day phone-home verification. EVERY 10 days. And if you're a day late BLAM your software becomes unusable. So... See the difference?
A single activation versus 10 days is a very different matter. I _wanted_ Mass Effect. It won't be seeing my desktop... legitimately at least. |
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