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mikenolan7
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reply to SUMware
Re: "I Was A Teenage Bot Master"

I'd like to see sentencing in a case like this to be a choice between go back to school and maintain good grades with the only computer access being to complete assignments, or go to the correctional facility. Obviously the parents took no interest in the kid. Didn't they ever question where the money for fast motorcycles and thousands of dollars worth of electronics came from? While it's tempting to want to see him locked up, putting more and more people in jail doesn't seem to be improving things. Maybe NetNanny would teach him a little humility.

RandomZero

join:2008-01-07
reply to SUMware
Provided he doesn't just get a slap on the wrist like a lot of the other "hackers"..


Cudni
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reply to RandomZero
He will acquire further, if more ordinary, skills in the correctional facility

Cudni

RandomZero

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reply to SUMware
It's funny how you all bash this kid, but chances are he's going to be more successful than an of you when he gets older.

The skills he's learned while doing what he does will grant him entry in the IT world easily, and none of what he's doing now will have any affect because he isn't of legal age.


jaykaykay
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reply to kdshapiro
That's happened before and the person has been very good at helping those he harmed. Read Catch Me If You Can. It's a true story.


kdshapiro

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reply to La Luna
"Possibly, but I would hope they wouldn't reward him (and he seems to be a idiot in other ways). That sends a really bad message. Not to mention, what he and his dopey friend did isn't really that *special*. Botnets are a dime a dozen."

It would be the equivalent of hiring a bank robber as a security specialist.
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Bubba17
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reply to La Luna
said by La Luna See Profile :

Oh....and where ARE the parents?
From the Register link: "With an abundance of time on his hands and little adult supervision, he thrived on the excitement of a life dominated by World of Warcraft, fast motorcycles and computer hacking."

Too, dropping out of school after the 8th grade accounts nicely for "an abundance of time on his hands".

You know, looking back, I can envision myself and the, fetching, Mrs. being all understanding and supportive of allowing/enabling any of our three, now grown and gone, to have dropped out of school after the 8th grade ... nah!!!
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Le Boule

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Selma, AL

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Good one, AB!


La Luna
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said by jefe See Profile :

What do you want to bet he gets hired by Eset, or Norton, or the FBI, to help them stop other hackers from doing what he did?
Possibly, but I would hope they wouldn't reward him (and he seems to be a idiot in other ways). That sends a really bad message. Not to mention, what he and his dopey friend did isn't really that *special*. Botnets are a dime a dozen.

His parents looked on.

Too bad they didn't look on a little sooner to see what junior was up to.
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AB
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reply to SUMware
A teenage masterbotter, eh?

Er, uhh . . . no comment.


jefe
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Northport, NY
reply to La Luna
What do you want to bet he gets hired by Eset, or Norton, or the FBI, to help them stop other hackers from doing what he did?


La Luna
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reply to SUMware
"That's why I love this age, its all computers heh," SoBe wrote in early December 2005, a month after Ancheta's arrest, during an online chat. "All these companys have websites, etc. Its just funny going somewhere like Target, or Sprint then coming home and rooting there servers out of boredom. Makes some people feel like they can do anything." (Misspellings and grammatical errors are his.)

This juvenile delinquent should pay more attention in school.

Hopefully, part of his sentence will forbid him access to computers.

Oh....and where ARE the parents?
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11,044 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11~~TEAM DISCOVERY
Can't feel you anymore, don't need you anymore, don't believe you anymore, I don't need you anymore

SUMware
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An interesting read from The Register
8th May 2008 -
quote:
The Confessions of SoBe Owns

One day in May 2005, a 16-year-old hacker named SoBe opened his front door to find a swarm of FBI agents descending on his family's three-story house in Boca Raton, Florida. With an arm in leg in casts from a recent motorcycle accident, one agent grabbed his good arm while others seized thousands of dollars worth of computers, video game consoles and other electronics. His parents looked on.

At that moment, some 2,700 miles away, in the Los Angeles suburb of Downey, California, the FBI was serving a separate search warrant on Jeanson James Ancheta, SoBe's 20-year-old employer and hacking mentor. It was the second time in six months Ancheta had been raided by the FBI, - a clear sign, had either bothered to notice, that their year-long botnet spree was unravelling.

But instead of abandoning the venture after the first raid, or at least laying low for a while, SoBe and Ancheta, according to court documents, continued hijacking hundreds of thousands of PCs that they would then corral into massive networks and infected with adware. So great was SoBe's sense of impunity he continued the scheme even after Ancheta was arrested a few months later and charged with 17 felonies related to the hijacking of almost 400,000 PCs, some of them belonging to the US Department of Defense.

SoBe - who also went under the names SoBe Owns, PwnZ0r, SerlissMc and vapidz - admitted to infecting computers belonging to the Defense Information Security Agency and Sandia National Laboratories.
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