Anomaly95
join:2005-12-11
Phoenix, AZ | reply to shimonmor
Re: Bring it on...
I do. However, I don't like the idea that my browsing history is up for sale. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| Wether its from the ISP, DNS, or web servers (via cookie), all stats collection is for sale.
This is the information age, and it is and has always been for sale at some point.
When you purchase a house... do you not immediately get flooded with junk mail ? Your mortgage information is sold. Data miners are out there, and will pay for trending info.
Where it gets touchy is deep packet inspection, and what particular information is sold, and what comes with it. I.E. Selling your browsing history (google) vs. selling information which ties you to which online bank you use.
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Canada = Hollywood North |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| The Google cookie, and other tracking by advertisers online, is not comparable to the Nebuad spybox. The difference is that you can opt out of any online tracking by ad servers, etc. if you are well-informed enough to know what to do about cookies, javascript and other tricks that websites use. But when it's the ISP doing the data-mining, you can't opt out without the ISP allowing you to, because all your traffic is intercepted between you and the internet.
And of course the ISPs can put whatever they want in their "terms of service" and the vast majority of internet users don't have a choice of any other provider offering better terms. This is called (by economists) a market failure. (The telcos and cablecos talk about "letting the market handle it" when they want to avoid regulation, but they do all they can to prevent competition.)
That's why we need legislation to protect us from abuses like this. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| True - there is a VERY big difference between session logging at the web site level and intercepting/snarfing/eavesdropping on all packets, and reselling 'some'  of the information.
I think that even if there was a significant amount of competition, most, if not all would sell your information. Those that wouldn't sell your information would charge a premium... and you still can't guarantee that they wouldn't do it anyways.
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Canada = Hollywood North |
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rrz103
RichardZ
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Canton, MI
|  reply to en102
I think the more appropriate analogy is: you buy a house, and movement from room to room, what you eat from the fridge and when, etc., is analyzed by an outside party.
More to the point, there is no excuse for this kind of monitoring and privacy violation--even in the "information age." |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | CEO's that are cashing in may beg to differ.
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Canada = Hollywood North |
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rrz103
RichardZ
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Canton, MI
| I'm sure they would beg to differ since they have the most to gain by violating customer's privacy under this scheme. So why would we consider their defense of this invasion of privacy when they are obviously biased and have an agenda?
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RichardZ @ »richardz.com |
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