RScottyL
join:2004-12-28
Irving, TX
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US From »www.engadgethd.com/2008/06/18/ve···out-us/:
With DOCSIS 3.0 (and the corresponding 50Mbps download speeds) being deploying in varying parts of America, Verizon understands what it's up against. Reportedly, the carrier is gearing up to push its 50Mbps FiOS internet -- which is currently only available in a few of its more favored states -- to its entire US footprint. Best of all, we're hearing that all 16 FiOS-enabled states could have access to the service as early as next week, and if you're anxious to sign up, just know that it'll run you $139.95 per month with an annual contract. Thankfully, Verizon is also planning to boost speeds in the basic and middle tiers as well, with the former going from 5Mbps to 10Mbps and the latter going from 15Mbps to 20Mbps. Yeah, we like where this is headed, but we've still got aways to go before we can even sniff Sigbritt Löthberg's connection.
From »uk.reuters.com/article/rbssTechM···0080618:
LAS VEGAS, June 18 (Reuters) - Verizon Communications Inc (VZ.N: Quote, Profile, Research) is set to offer faster speeds for FiOS Internet customers in response to the growing popularity of bandwidth-heavy activities such as video downloading and photo-sharing, according to a draft of an announcement due on Wednesday.
"The appetite for bandwidth shows no sign of slowing down," Verizon chief operating officer Denny Strigl said in prepared remarks for a speech at the NXTcomm telecommunications industry conference in Las Vegas.
The No. 2 U.S. phone company plans to boost download speeds to up to 50 megabits per second (Mbps) from a previous 30 Mbps for premium FiOS subscribers, according to the draft.
That premium service was previously only offered in some states such as New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts but will now be offered throughout the 16 states where it has built the FiOS network.
Verizon will also boost the downloading speed of its mid-tier service to 20 Mbps from a previous 15, and that of its basic service to 10 Mbps from 5, it said. (Reporting by Ritsuko Ando; Editing by Ben Tan) | |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US Nice, if 5Mbps is going to go Bye bye and it's going to become 10Mbps for the same price, that's excellent! Now I just have to wait for them to lay the cable where I am. | |
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just lou
join:2008-05-16
Staten Island, NY | I guess those of us at 20 are the only ones not getting squat!
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buckingham
Buckingham Pa
join:2005-07-17
Buckingham, PA
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by just lou  :I guess those of us at 20 are the only ones not getting squat! Well that's more than 17 Mbps more than I'm getting! LOL | |
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join:2008-05-16
Staten Island, NY | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US I can tell you this much, when my 1 year contract is up, I'll sign up for 10Mbps instead of 20. For my purposes, that's more than fast enough. 5 was pretty blah, but 10 would be fine to me. You'd think they'd pump 20 up to 25 or 30. | |
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Premium
join:2005-03-25
Long Beach, CA
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US I just called to resolve a billing issue and asked the CSR about 20/20 in my area in California. She didn't know about it but did some digging on her side. She said 20/20 "footprint" was scheduled to roll out for next week, but didn't find anything more specific than that. | |
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SQUIDWARD360
join:2008-06-11
Leesburg, VA | I am at 30 and I think I'll only get 50 if I want to pay $40 more. | |
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Premium
join:2002-12-24
Port Washington, NY
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US That is an interesting question - the press release says that the 50/20 tier will replace the 30/15 tier where it exists, at the same price ($89.95). That is the tier I currently have - I wonder if we'll get automatically bumped?
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by backermann :That is an interesting question - the press release says that the 50/20 tier will replace the 30/15 tier where it exists, at the same price ($89.95). That is the tier I currently have - I wonder if we'll get automatically bumped? said by SQUIDWARD360 :I am at 30 and I think I'll only get 50 if I want to pay $40 more. I hope so. I have the 30/5 tier(which isn't offered here anymore) for $55 a month. I would love for that to get bumped to 50mbs. Although once my contract is up I would be willing to pay $90(current price for 30/15) for it but not $140. | |
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join:2001-12-01
Nazareth, PA
| said by just lou :I guess those of us at 20 are the only ones not getting squat! I guess those of us who still don't have FiOS in our areas are the ones not getting squat! | |
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join:2001-05-15
Portland, OR
1 edit | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US I am in Portland, Oregon, and have had 5/2 for many Months now. If I read the news right it seems to say that soon...within a Month?...I will be upgraded to 10/2. However, another way to read it is that it is for new customers only. Does anyone know? This could help with them cutting off most Newsgroups!
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Kingscup
join:2006-03-01
united state
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by MPSAN :I am in Portland, Oregon, and have had 5/2 for many Months now. If I read the news right it seems to say that soon...within a Month?...I will be upgraded to 10/2. However, another way to read it is that it is for new customers only. Does anyone know? This could help with them cutting off most Newsgroups You will get the 10/2 but you have to call Verizon and ask for it in order to get it. You will not automatically be upgraded to it.
I am under contract and Verizon has said in the past that if I make any changes in service that my price will go up to the new price. I wonder if upgrading to 10/2 will cause my price to go up. | |
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Cyberian75
join:2004-03-16
Beaverton, OR | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US I submitted an upgrade (10/2) order online for the same price. I'm under a two-year contract.
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5c077
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join:2003-01-28
MD
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by Cyberian75 :I submitted an upgrade (10/2) order online for the same price. I'm under a two-year contract. Wish I could use the online management stuff.. I had FIOS for 3 months, never received an account number and verizon.com requires account number to create an account, account number is on the bill that I cant view without an account number!
Proof that Verizon is the worst tech support and website out there, I'm not even going to waste my time calling.
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Cyberian75
join:2004-03-16
Beaverton, OR | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US No billing statements? | |
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join:2006-03-01
united state
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US I am in a sticky situation now. I don't have Verizon phone service (I have internet/TV) so everything is based off of an account number. Verizon lives and dies by having a phone number as an "account number". If you don't have phone service, Verizon requires payment via credit card. Also, you don't receive a billing statement.
I log into Verizon.net because it will show the internet portion of my bill. It has an account number on it so whenever I need to call Verizon, I can log in and get the account number for Verizon. They have changed the website so now it takes me to Verizon.com in order to see my bill. Verizon.com requires a phone number. I don't have phone service! I am not sure what I am going to do as I want the free upgrade announced by Verizon in this thread. | |
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Cyberian75
join:2004-03-16
Beaverton, OR | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US Call in or use Verizon Direct here. | |
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deblin
Dark Side of the Moon
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
Middletown, DE
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US Great! Thanks so much for the link. It let me create the account, but when I try to view the details for my internet info, it tells me that my account number is an invalid phone number. 
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deblin
Dark Side of the Moon
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
Middletown, DE
| Wait, a different link worked and I found a "change plans" link. But still, it's screwed up. | |
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join:2006-03-01
united state
| Thanks for the link. Now I just have to figure out my account number. lol | |
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deblin
Dark Side of the Moon
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
Middletown, DE
| I can't use the online account thing either for my business (internet-only) FiOS account.
It requires the account phone number, which is my residential FiOS phone number. So it says it can't register the account for a business service against a residential number 
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join:2001-05-15
Portland, OR
1 edit | said by Cyberian75 :I submitted an upgrade (10/2) order online for the same price. I'm under a two-year contract. Did they say when you would get it? I looked online and for my account in Portland west hills they say that 5/2 is $39.99 but the 10/2 is $42.99. | |
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Premium
join:2003-05-19
Lutherville Timonium, MD
clubs:
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by MPSAN :Did they say when you would get it? I looked online and for my account in Portland west hills they say that 5/2 is $39.99 but the 10/2 is $42.99. I ordered 20/20 about five hours ago and have yet to see the upgrade. | |
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Dark Side of the Moon
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
Middletown, DE
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by SGR :said by MPSAN :Did they say when you would get it? I looked online and for my account in Portland west hills they say that 5/2 is $39.99 but the 10/2 is $42.99. I ordered 20/20 about five hours ago and have yet to see the upgrade. Dude, it's Sunday night. I would at least wait until tomorrow. Even then, I wouldn't expect a one day turnaround. What led you to believe it would occur that fast?
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join:2003-05-19
Lutherville Timonium, MD
clubs: | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US deblin,
It only took about two minutes to go from 15/2 to 15/15 although I upgraded by calling billing though. It would be fairly easy to make it near instant online as well but I guess Verizon chooses not to. | |
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deblin
Dark Side of the Moon
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
Middletown, DE
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by SGR :deblin, It only took about two minutes to go from 15/2 to 15/15 although I upgraded by calling billing though. It would be fairly easy to make it near instant online as well but I guess Verizon chooses not to. Well, in that case you spoke to someone, no? I think the online ordering/upgrade process just adds entries to a queue, and they are processed during normal business hours. It's like calling in, but the order is submitted automatically, but not processed automatically. Someone from verizon can correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt it's an automatic process from start to finish (though yes, that would be nice).
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Premium
join:2003-05-19
Lutherville Timonium, MD
clubs:
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US You're most likely right in how its handled. I wonder if Verizon realizes they could easily decrease workload among techs by employing real-time, computer generated upgrades for anything that doesn't require a truck roll or user intervention. Not only would their customers be happy, they would save money when new services become available that involve nothing more than a simple "switch". (Then again maybe speed upgrades are more complicated on FiOS. On cable its just a matter of telling your modem to download a different config) | |
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Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by SGR : I wonder if Verizon realizes they could easily decrease workload among techs by employing real-time, computer generated upgrades for anything that doesn't require a truck roll or user intervention. Your services records are scattered all over in Vz's computers. They wouldn't trust an auto-program to find them correctly and then modify them. You think we see some errors now. | |
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SYNACK
Just Firewall It
Premium,Mod
join:2001-03-05
Venice, CA
 ·Comcast Formerly ..
Host:
Networking
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Netgear
ZyXEL
| said by deblin : Well, in that case you spoke to someone, no? I think the online ordering/upgrade process just adds entries to a queue, and they are processed during normal business hours. It's like calling in, but the order is submitted automatically, but not processed automatically. Well, I upgraded online for the same price yesterday, and it gave me an "Order Effective Date: 07-02-2008" in the confirmation e-mail. It is hard to believe that this should take 10+ days since it is just a configuration change.... 
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fndelta
join:2008-04-28
Grosse Pointe, MI | Does anyone have a Foot Print of where verizon (wired) service is offered? Such that they use for the wireless. I would be interested in seeing actually where all of these increases are occuring | |
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mobbo
join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX | Too much "former"s and "latter"s. Make a chart. It's too early in the morning for that. I have 15/15 service here in Texas. Am I being bumped up to 20/20 now? | |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
3 edits | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by mobbo :Too much "former"s and "latter"s. Make a chart. It's too early in the morning for that. I have 15/15 service here in Texas. Am I being bumped up to 20/20 now? "..Verizon says they're also bumping the speeds of their lower and middle tiers across all markets. "Basic" tier users who received 5Mbps/2Mbps will now see 10Mbps/2Mbps. The mid-tier connection speed of 15Mbps/2Mbps offered in many States is being bumped to 20Mbps/5Mbps.."
I don't know what that means for the 15/15 tiers and 30/15 tiers. I guess we'll find out next week.
I also don't know why the prices are lower here in Virginia. My girlfriend, in Maryland, a few miles away can only get it for around $140. Of course i would be happy if she would just get the lowest tier. She keeps dragging her feet in placing the order for phone and INTERNET service from FiOS. I need her to hurry up so we can split the $100 referral fee. | |
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join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US I saw that... it pertains to people with 5/2 and 15/2... I have 15/15. | |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
Premium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| said by aaronwt :said by mobbo :Too much "former"s and "latter"s. Make a chart. It's too early in the morning for that. I have 15/15 service here in Texas. Am I being bumped up to 20/20 now? "..Verizon says they're also bumping the speeds of their lower and middle tiers across all markets. "Basic" tier users who received 5Mbps/2Mbps will now see 10Mbps/2Mbps. The mid-tier connection speed of 15Mbps/2Mbps offered in many States is being bumped to 20Mbps/5Mbps.." I don't know what that means for the 15/15 tiers and 30/15 tiers. The press release is pretty clear. "Verizon had already offered the 50/20 Mbps and 20/20 Mbps services in its FiOS markets in Connecticut, Florida, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and Rhode Island. The company is now expanding those offerings to new Verizon FiOS customers in parts of California, Delaware, Indiana, Maryland, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia and Washington, replacing existing offerings of 30/15 Mbps and 15/15 Mbps services, respectively."
I also don't know why the prices are lower here in Virginia.
Competition is stiffer in areas that get these plans at a lower rate. | |
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Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US
Verizon was fighting with NJ and had stopped expanding the deploy there at the time 30/15 was introduced. Thus instead of NY and NJ, Verizon trialled it in NY and VA. | |
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SQUIDWARD360
join:2008-06-11
Leesburg, VA | I have a feeling if we are at 30/15 we can upgrade if we call and want to pay $140. If we don't call my guess is our plan will grandfather in but won't be offered anymore. I may just have my plan decreased. | |
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Scyber
join:2001-12-28
Trenton, NJ
| $140 is too much money for that service. I'd rather get a dual-wan router and get additional service through another company. OOL Boost + VZ's 20mbit plan would get me 50 mbit total bandwidth for less money plus failover capabilities should a provider go down. Certainly there are some routing challenges in that setup, but would get me more bang for my buck. | |
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SkipMDMan
join:2002-02-09
Riverdale, MD | So they increase your download speeds but take away the newsgroups that most people download from? Seems to me a little odd. | |
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| MrSpock29
join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by SkipMDMan :So they increase your download speeds but take away the newsgroups that most people download from? Seems to me a little odd. From what I understand, that is a totally separate issue, as the newsgroup issue is due to the NY AG. They have shown that you can use that speed for what you want (as long as it is legal of course) | |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD | So when can I call for the upgrade? there is no date shown.
Or will it be automatic?
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danclan
join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by Vamp :So when can I call for the upgrade? there is no date shown. Or will it be automatic? According to a Verizon spokesperson you must call and there is no charge... This according to article in our local newspaper about the announced changes. | |
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Cyberian75
join:2004-03-16
Beaverton, OR
 ·callwithus
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by danclan :According to a Verizon spokesperson you must call and there is no charge... This according to article in our local newspaper about the announced changes. Can't we use Verizon Direct here for that? I don't see why not... | |
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TJ_665
join:2001-07-04
Fairview, OR
·Verizon FIOS
| Currently paying $54.99 for 15/2 here in OR. I'm glad to hear about the 20/5 bump but will it be the same price? The PR isn't too clear about this. And we've seen how previous Verizon speed increases have turned out...  | |
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Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by TJ_665 : And we've seen how previous Verizon speed increases have turned out... How was that? I don't recall one occurring while prices were changing. | |
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majicman
join:2008-05-13
Pittsburgh, PA
| So it says on Verizon's corporate policy blog that existing customers will have to call to be upgraded, but what it doesn't say is whether or not existing customers will have to pay for the upgrade. I hope not! I'm on the 15/2, so I can't wait for 20/5. | |
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just lou
join:2008-05-16
Staten Island, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by majicman :So it says on Verizon's corporate policy blog that existing customers will have to call to be upgraded, but what it doesn't say is whether or not existing customers will have to pay for the upgrade. I hope not! I'm on the 15/2, so I can't wait for 20/5. If they don't raise your price, does that mean they'll lower mine since I already pay for 20/5? | |
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deblin
Dark Side of the Moon
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-01
Middletown, DE
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by just lou :If they don't raise your price, does that mean they'll lower mine since I already pay for 20/5? I think they should bump you all back down to where WE are NOW and charge you the same for a while, so we can have the faster speeds for cheaper and see how you like it. 
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join:2008-05-16
Staten Island, NY | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US Please don't give them any ideas. | |
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Ryno
The Wanderer
Premium
join:2001-04-07
Danielsville, PA | I think the prices should be corresponding to the speed.
50 Mbps = $50
20 Mbps = $20
and till hell freezes over (which is when I'll get FIOS)
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
Premium
join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL | Anyone know an easy way to order this like a website link? I hate going through all of the level one screening crap with a phone. | |
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Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US said by TechieZero :Anyone know an easy way to order this like a website link? I hate going through all of the level one screening crap with a phone. I'd be concerned that it would flow through the system more like a new order and possibly generate a rate increase if done online. Although we still aren't sure that it won't cause an increase even if done on the phone, it shouldn't, going by how they have been handled in the past. | |
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| | ProFiOSDude
Premium
join:2005-05-27
Chesapeake, VA | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US 6/23, according to my source. That's when the new speeds should be available. I'd hope that it holds true for existing customers, also, being effective on the same date. Regardless, I'm going to wait until Wednesday at least to call.
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tradergordo
join:2002-12-23
Phoenixville, PA
| They just raised my price by $10/month more than I was paying, with no advanced notice. I called up billing to inquire about it - first thing he tells me about is that all the speeds are being bumped up, so I'll get twice the download speed. But we raised your rate by $5/month (he tried to link the two although my speed hasn't actually changed, just my bill, haha). So I say if you raised my rate by $5/month why is the bill $10 higher? He gave some convoluted answer about a partial prior month plus and advance month blah blah blah... | |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | It's supposed to be $89.95 here since it will replace the current 30/15. I plan on upgrading my 30/5 to the 50/20, although I'm not looking forward to the $35 increase I will see. But my 12 month promotion will be up in 2.5 months anyway so I might as well change next week. | |
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tt_webmaster
join:2001-11-12
Leesburg, VA | Just ordered 50/20 online for my townhouse in Leesburg, VA. | |
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KenAF
join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA
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How does this differ from what you see under your account?
Note I don't have Verizon telephone service. | |
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| chewypgh
join:2007-12-17
Pittsburgh, PA
1 edit | Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US KenAF,
I don't have 50/20 as an option under my account. The other options are the same as yours - 10/2, 20/5, 20/20. | |
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Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA |
I see the same thing. I'm waiting for someone to post a screenshot that has a link to upgrade at the existing contract price. | |
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join:2001-03-07
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US Hmmm, it looks like the upgrade is available but it's a few bucks more. Is this because I locked in a lower rate with my 2yr contract? This is for Pittsburgh, JohnA, so you should see this by now I would think. | |
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Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: Verizon pushing FiOS internet to 50Mbps throughout US
I still see what I posted before. While your link says "for the same price", it's obviously at a different price. Using this normal upgrade path is likely to produce results like SYNACK posted, ie: effective date some number of days out. That is not the equivalent of making the call to get the new speed for your existing tier, IMHO. | |
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NoOneButMe
join:2001-08-24
TX | how long dose it take for the site to update your speeds i set it to the 20 by 20 and it sead it was done but i dont have the 20 by 20 yet do i have to do something to get the new speeds ? | |
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Langning
Premium
join:2003-04-28
Marlborough, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| I am 6-7 months into my 2-year contract with the $99 triple play that includes 5/2 internet. Because of new bill format, I have no idea of what my 5/2 internet is priced at.
I like the phrase "Now get DOUBLE the download speed for the same price", are they going to honor it? | |
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