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I create my click data, so it is mine. If the ISP tries to do anything with it, then they violate my copyright.
Sounds fair to me. I could use some extra money. Go ahead and steal it.
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Hingham, MA | I'm sorry, did you see clause 7(b)(iii)(q)(N)(25) in your TOS agreement? You consent to having your click data sold, as every TOS includes the clause that they can change it whenever. |
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GlobalMind
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said by gatorkram  :I create my click data, so it is mine. If the ISP tries to do anything with it, then they violate my copyright. Sounds fair to me. I could use some extra money. Go ahead and steal it. Yep if it were only to be challenged and stand up. I totally agree.
What is worse still, is that if this really is modifying the page code before it reaches the user agent that sent the request they're changing something which they have absolutely NO right to change, i.e. the web site code from the remote server.
No ISP or ad vendor has any right to modify the code being sent from my servers to someone requesting a page. I don't care if it is the ISP's network or not, the code from that page is not free for them to change.
I agree legality is an issue with this but it won't be stopped unless they're sued and lose.
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said by gatorkram :I create my click data, so it is mine. If the ISP tries to do anything with it, then they violate my copyright. I understand that you think your clickdata belongs to you, but it's not a copyright and neither you nor anyone else will be able to use that argument. Clickdata is a privacy issue, not one for the copyright office. |
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en102
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Valencia, CA | reply to gatorkram
How about if something you click on (say.. mp3s) and download.
Since NebuAd is reading that data as well, they are also in copyright violation.
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gatorkram
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said by SilverSurfer :said by gatorkram :I create my click data, so it is mine. If the ISP tries to do anything with it, then they violate my copyright. I understand that you think your clickdata belongs to you, but it's not a copyright and neither you nor anyone else will be able to use that argument. Clickdata is a privacy issue, not one for the copyright office. It's %100 unique and created by me, what else would you call something you can copyright?
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No one seems to care about privacy online these days, but every time you turn around some huge group is crying about their copyrights being violated, so I figured maybe I'd join them.
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major marco
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| said by gatorkram :It's %100 unique and created by me, what else would you call something you can copyright? edit: more text No one seems to care about privacy online these days, but every time you turn around some huge group is crying about their copyrights being violated, so I figured maybe I'd join them. Beautiful fantasy you've got going on there, but no court in the country is going to assign you a copyright for clickstream data because it is not considered a fixed medium.
You'd have to go pretty far up in the food chain to get a judge to render a decision that makes it so, and, somehow, I don't ever see that happening.
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major marco
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said by en102 :How about if something you click on (say.. mp3s) and download. Since NebuAd is reading that data as well, they are also in copyright violation. 'Nother nice fantasy, but no. Not considered infringement.
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said by gatorkram :I create my click data, so it is mine. If the ISP tries to do anything with it, then they violate my copyright. Sounds fair to me. I could use some extra money. Go ahead and steal it. Uhmmmmm NO!
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said by major marco somehow, I don't ever see that happening.
The thing that's rather annoying is that the ISP seems to think they own the data, so someone CAN claim ownership. Just a question of what stands up.
I still say the more annoying part is that they could be or are modifying web site code on its way back to the requestor and it is that part I think is highly objectionable. |
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