Grail Knight
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Re: Firefox 3 honors Windows Security Zones...
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Who knows what I did of the myriad of pref changes, etc. that borked it. I am just stunned at how much has to be changed in Fx3 to make it usable.
Are you going to start this again? You said the same thing about Fx v2 that was disputed and never gave a straight answer as to what exactly you had to change to make it usable. I install Fx v3 and start it right up and used it. That is uable to me. Tweaking comes afterword.
Other then your usual complaints of favorite extensions not working, no spellbound because the dev made the excellent inline one, and the awesome bar of which I posted tweaks to disable it months ago what else is wrong?
Problems with Fx v3 and VM should be asked of the VM devs. I see no notes saying Fx v3 is made to run on a virtual drive.
Delete it and start over. You certainly have time.
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Besides, IE has always been very unsafe as far as downloads go as you can RUN the download.
Is that not the goal to run a program after you download it unless you are archiving something? Certainly by now you should know how to right-click save to hard drive and not have it run without user approval.
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Edit* If you even follow the link the OP posted you will see that the AV can be disabled. Did you read down that far on the page? |
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Mele20
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| It is semantics that plagues you and I.  I don't think something is "usable" unless it works like the user wants it to work. You feel it is "usable" if you can use like it comes even though you dislike a great deal about the way it is out of the box. That's a semantics disagreement about what the word "usable" means. We are both right or both wrong as the answer is based on how a person defines "usable".
My extensions work fine. But there is no Spellbound extension for Fx3 and I cannot turn off the spell checker even though the box to use it in Options/advanced is unchecked. I also cannot turn it off on the Vista machine. I have to right click uncheck the "check spelling" box every time I go to make a post. Then when I preview the post and want to change something, add something, the spell checker has been turned back on. It is awful. It is like a leech that cannot be dislodged. The new TBE extensions are ok but the auto hide doesn't work right and I had to turn that off. I have three extensions where I have one for 1.5. I have the awesome bar fixed and I don't have to hassle with getting rid of the favicons like my friend just did and sent me the rather convoluted fix because I installed CookieSafe and it now, with the latest version, blocks all those myriad of third party favicon cookies.
I don't understand your comment about IE and downloads. IE downloads are dangerous because IE does not stop you from running the download. Fx is far superior in this regard so there is no need for Fx to go begging to IE about some Windows standards that Microsoft doesn't even have. As for the anti virus being hijacked by Fx3, of course, I turned that off. Why would you think I wouldn't? I had not encountered the behavior because I don't run AV on my virtual machines...(well, I will be running one on the Vista one because it is the inferior Microsoft Virtual PC which has no ability to take snapshots or clone).
Where did you get the idea that Fx cannot run on virtual machines? If true, that would set Fx back eons. I fired up my virtual machine that has Fx2 on it and it loads all sites rapidly. There is no problem with VMWare. It's something with Fx3. As I said, I have done a great deal of "tweaking" as you call it ...I call the same thing making the browser "usable" and probably something I did borked it. I have IE 8 on that machine and it has lots of problems so trying it to see if it could be something with that XP Pro install (rather than Fx2) isn't much help. I don't think I installed Opera on that machine. The virtual machines have a fixed size hard drive which is small so I can't put a lot on them. That is one nice thing about MS Virtual PC..I can change the size of the hard drive on the fly or add more hard drives if I want.
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Grail Knight
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1 edit | Semantics are very important when discussing computers and software. I am not being nitpicky with you. When I was working and I went to a customers house I bet I spent more time trying to figure out what they were talking about vs time spent fixing their computer.
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Just put this in the user.js in your Profile Folder and it will disable the spellchecker. Restart Fx when done. You will have to create the user.js file.
user_pref("layout.spellcheckDefault", 0);
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I did not say that Fx could not run on Virtual Machine they will run but oft times in Fx you lose some functionality. You have seen this yourself.
Look at a software package and it will say something like this:
Works with:
Win95
WinXP
Vista
Hypothetically if also were to say a virtual drive then I know the developer has tested it fully in this environment. I have nothing against a virtual install I run some games from a virtual drive so I do not have to swap out discs but there are a couple that refused to work right.
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IE allowing something to run is not inherently dangerous. It is the user that is dangerous much of the time by not paying attention to what they are doing or blowing through things clicking away not paying attention. You know you can have IE set to download and notify when done but it will not run the program without user intervention and can even be notified before the download begins. It is all about knowing what you (not you in particular) are doing and how your setting up IE.
In all these years I have had zero issue downloading in IE or having something Run without me initiating it. A good AV is going to catch anything or it is supposed to.
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said by Mele20  :...But there is no Spellbound extension for Fx3 and I cannot turn off the spell checker even though the box to use it in Options/advanced is unchecked. I also cannot turn it off on the Vista machine. I have to right click uncheck the "check spelling" box every time I go to make a post. Then when I preview the post and want to change something, add something, the spell checker has been turned back on. It is awful. It is like a leech that cannot be dislodged.... Turning off spellchecker is one of the first things I did, and I haven't seen it since, it has stayed turned off, and the box is still unchecked 5 days later.
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