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Re: New printer: Samsung ML-1610 or HPP1005
We have a couple 1010's and 1012's (the P1005's earlier models) and they are rock solid, never really having a problem. For light to medium duty they are great. I was so impressed I bought one for my home. Bought it used, with a cartridge, a year later, with some light duty printing, still going strong. I swear by HP printers, I personally have never had a problem with any model I have ever owned from them. | |
PeteC2
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clubs: | The HP P-1006 is retailing for a mere $99. How can you go wrong? | |
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1 edit | Thanks people. I got the HP and boy is FAST to start printing and fast to print an entire page. Did I mention how quiet it was...
I'm happy! | |
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Hi Pete,
The way you can go wrong is if you refill your own cartridges or when you find out what your new one costs (Sticker Shock)... Or you find out that you have to replace not only the toner, but also the drum...
I don't know about the HP Laser printer, But Samsungs drum is built into the cartridge on most models.
If you want to refill your cartridge you might have to have a new chip or chipresetter to do so.
On my samsung 2250 laser printer the drum and toner are all one. Refilling the cartridge requires removal of a few screws and 160grams of toner. Done in five minutes for a total cost of $20.00
Sure the Samsung is a little noisy, But so is my Epson C86 Inkjet printer....:D
MnR
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| said by MnR  :Hi Pete, The way you can go wrong is if you refill your own cartridges or when you find out what your new one costs (Sticker Shock)... Or you find out that you have to replace not only the toner, but also the drum... I don't know about the HP Laser printer, But Samsungs drum is built into the cartridge on most models. Unfortunately, the same is true for the P1005/P1006 but not surprising for a compact consumer-level laser. Although not by a huge margin, separate toner/drum lasers are more economical per page...though not by a wide margin. I have an older Okidata B4350, with separate consumables, and my cost per page is lower than either the HP P1005/P1006, or the Samsung 1710.
However, at a max price of $60 for a replacement cartridge for the HP P1005/P1006, with a yield of some 1500 pages, that is 4 cents per page...and I can always find discounts on these...for example, Staples has a $20 rebate right now on 'em...that drops the price for a genuine, new, HP cartridge to $40.99...or less than 3 cents per page. Also, you can almost always save $10 - $15 on "2-packs". So about 3 cents per page is a realistic expectation, using "stock" refills.
Now, it is correct that the Samsung will yield a little lower cost per page, perhaps all of 1 cent...but beyond a doubt the HP is quieter, faster, and most likely more trouble-free.
Re-filling toner in a toner/drum combo cartridge is OK, but frankly, if I can not afford to buy a replacement cartidge, I am most likely printing too high a volume to make a smaller consumer-based laser a good decision in the first place. If you have the patience and willingness to mess with it, certainly you can lower your cost per page. At a couple cents per page printing though, I simply do not print so much that the effort is justified by the savings.
For my Okidata, a toner cartridge (no drum) is all of $36.99 for a 3,000 page yield, before any rebates...
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