R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
|  Bell's upcoming plans for Wholesalers!
Guess it's time to raise another stink and prepare for another end of month Bell event.
Seems Bell may be planning another submission to the CRTC at the end of July.
One part I hear is pretty good as they plan to introduce new speeds finally to the group (10Meg and 16Meg), but what absolutely stinks is seems Bell's planning on also introducing some sort of Usage Based Billing component!
CAN YOU SAY CASH-GRAB! Oish.....
If there was a time for both the CRTC and the Government to step in, this is the time! This is absolutely BS... They're trying to make us resellers or turn us into mini-Sympaticos... goodbye uniqueness! Not good!
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TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. |
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | hmm, how would that work? Is it even legal to monitor and bill usage for 3rd party customers? |
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Rastan
join:2007-04-25
Canada
 ·VBUZZER
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
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Can they force Teksavvy to cap the 5MB speed profile as well? When I canceled my account with Sympatico, the person I spoke to seemed pretty sure that Teksavvy's 200GB/month cap wouldn't last long.
If Teksavvy is already purchasing bandwidth from Bell, how can they justify further bandwidth usage fees? |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18 | reply to R0CKY
Why not include a survey witha submision of users who'd leave Bell completely if they were to go usafe based billing. |
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jpabboud
join:2005-12-12
Montreal, QC
1 edit | reply to R0CKY
I think Rocky hinted at that a while back when TSI got rid of the unlimited logins. |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| today we are at a point were Bell is still hurting 3rd parties.
They will eventually be forced to build their own network, this seems to be the only logical action.
As nice as Bell's "Fiber" network is. It is already out dated since it is not true fiber it is a hybrid of the old and new. FTTH will not offer new speed but it will also change the way Canadians experience the internet and start a new invovation era. |
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HiVolt
30
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs: | reply to R0CKY
Wow, that's just ridiculous... We're soon gonna be left with no f!@#$ alternative to the big telco/cableco's...
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mazhurg
Premium
join:2004-05-02
Portage La Prairie, MB
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·MTS
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R0cky, something more concrete, or just the rumour mill for now?
To start metering would that not involve a change to the schedules? I would assume that there would be a proper feasibility study done first?
Don't jump at the carrot. See if it make sense first.
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jpabboud
join:2005-12-12
Montreal, QC
1 edit | reply to R0CKY
I think it could have something to do with Bell dropping the price on their 16Meg service to $50/mo. in August. |
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JayMan
Whoot
Premium
join:2002-06-05
Earth | reply to R0CKY
Get'em Rocky. |
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Black Moon
join:2005-02-01
Scarborough, ON | reply to R0CKY
'Usage Based Billing' is basically saying they want to stop p2p and heavy users. Will they then also stop the throttle?
Baskets. |
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j3richo
join:2007-12-08
Gatineau, QC | reply to R0CKY
how would that work exactly? don't wholesalers buy their own bandwidth? who is Bell to tell them how much they can use it for? |
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theninjasqua
join:2007-09-26
Oakville, ON | Perhaps that logic is something that Bell is looking to change in exchange for the higher speeds.
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Jman99
join:2007-04-24
Etobicoke, ON | reply to R0CKY
So first Bell wants you to pay for each Gig-e connection that you need, and then they want you to pay again for the usage.
That's having the cake and eating it too. |
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Kyolux
join:2008-04-24
1 edit | said by Jman99  :That's having the cake and eating it too. You mean selling the cake and eating it too?
Anyway, usual Bell BSing the rest of the world. |
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Rastan
join:2007-04-25
Canada | reply to R0CKY
The smaller ISP's need to get together again and hit back hard because this is complete nonsense. It's clear that Bell will not back off and won't stop abusing their power until someone stands up to them. |
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Acanac Inc
Premium
join:2007-03-05
Mississauga, ON
2 edits | reply to R0CKY
I can confirm this as well. They are pushing ahead with a user Usage Based Billing component. This is as ridicules as it gets. They even gave us the excuse that it's for the benefit of the Wholesalers. ( another revenue stream) Considering Teksavvy and Acanac make up the bulk of all new orders I don't know who they are talking too. In my opinion this is just a back up plan in case the CRTC rules against them with Caip.
For companies like Teksavvy and Acanac that have 4-6 1Gbps AGAS interconnects this could not get more ridicules. We paid setup fee's planned months or even years ahead for what?
What about IPTV.... With Usage Based Billing component it will be impractical for any of us to ever offer such services. Totally uncompetitive.
We do make up a large majority of the wholesaler client base Rocky. If we submit our objections to the CRTC together they may take notice.
Best Regards,
Paul |
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emerald_b
join:2008-04-07
North York, ON
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WOW this is low...even for bell... I think its time for CAIP to start to hit them where it hurts... because if they dont, this is never gonna stop. They think that this will scare off the 3rd party providers... which is their ultimate goal I suspect. This whole thing is getting so pathetic. I think its time for a massive media strike against bell... cause guess what? now EVERYONE is affected personally not just p2p users... I think people will start to listen. Plus its not a hard concept to explain to the masses. Do I sense Ottawa rally pt. 2? |
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TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON | reply to R0CKY
So that mean you'd be forced to do caps on everyone? So no more unlimited? |
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oh LOOK
@videotron.ca
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This falls in line with this rumor from the sympatico forum:
»Is it true Bell will have Total Max 16mbps in August for $50
Also note the P2Pnet article and Rocky's reply:
»www.p2pnet.net/story/16414
All this DOES NOT add up if 5% of the user who use P2P and go over 60-gigs per month ARE the problem as Bell laid claim to.
this whole friggin thing stinks of being fixed and of anti-competitiveness.
Are wee seeing another CRTC fight unfold? |
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