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Tonice2007
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Help! Need Ideas for Home/Office Setup...

Well, due to privacy concerns, I can't post any pictures, but you would figure it out very simply any way...

Basically, I only have Verizon's Westell 327W as the router/modem for my network, so everybody is connected through ethernet, at 10/100...

The only issue, that I have with this setup, is basically, I can not connect all my computers/laptops all at once, since my parents are paranoid about privacy and don't want to use Wireless for the laptops; so, decide on upgrading the network, through structured wiring, so, in the end (hopefully) everything looks clean and neat while working properly. Now there's the problem, the house that we are living in is very old, I believe that it was built like after the Civil War or during that time; so, we plan to destroy it and rebuild it from scratch in about 10 years or so, after everybody graduates from college, when there would be money left over (hopefully). So, I would like the wiring to last at least 10 years, so I would like to get the "newest" thing possible, ex: the newest is 10Gbps I would get 1Gbps the next newest and fastest tech.

So, I need basically I need to choose a 24 or 48 ports 1Gbps switch, which is going into a router that supports all the goodies (QoS, DDoS "prevention", DHCP, DNS, VPN, etc) that is also 1Gbps. Now, I don't know which switch to choose, since I would like a Cisco switch since they are the "best" around and I would be able to use it for my Cisco training...

Any suggestions and comments will be appreciated...

asjamias

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i'll try not to be hard but this is for "Home / Office setup photos" forum.....

you're probably better off in networking...



ilikeme
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reply to Tonice2007
Wrong forum.



tschmidt
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reply to Tonice2007
Most of the items on your wish list are router features, not switch features. The router does not have to support Gig Ethernet since it is much faster then typical residential broadband service.

You choice is to get either an unmanaged Gig Ethernet switch or a managed one. Keep in mind most commodity PCs are unable to saturate a Gig connection, typically max out at 300-400 Mbps.

How are you planning on using the VPN? Setting up a VPN will require some sort of managed switch. If you are taking a Cisco course then a Cisco switch makes sense but they tend to be pricey. Do you really need a Gig switch? If not might want to check out Craigslist or eBay for deals on used managed 10/100 switch.

/tom



devicemanage
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reply to Tonice2007
I currently have a Cisco PIX 501 behing my cable modem that handles my internet connection, VPN and all my nat connections for my exchange, web, ftp and remote control software. Behind that is a Cisco 2611XM that is hanging off my PIX running dhcp. Then there is a Netgear JGS516 gigabit unmanaged switch hanging off that. My netowrk has 2 subnets a 10. behing the pix and a 192. behind the 2611xm. My wireless Linksys WRT54g is on the 10. with restricted acces to the 192. network just in case it gets compromised and I have my Vonage adapter there too so it is away from the heavy traffic.

My transfer rates between pc's are now limited to hard drive speed limitation. When I copy say a dvd from a sata to sata I can achieve close to 45Mbps transfer rate. Mostly hovers between 12 and 30 Mbps. Maybe this will give you some ideas...
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Tonice2007
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reply to tschmidt
I know that, the router that I'm going to use will support all those features, that I will need, including VPN mainly used by myself, for getting schoolwork off my server(s) that I have at home.

Another thing I would like to be prepared for anything within the next 10 years, so I get the most bang for the buck to say, so that's why I would want to get a 1Gbps Router and switch, unless Fiber isn't coming to Brooklyn, New York, then I wouldn't need a 1Gbps router/switch...

And, I would probably use the internet connection, to host some servers, for myself...

Also, I already gone through training for a CCNA/CCNP, since I majored in CS, and for some reason, for a year my CS teacher, was a Cisco Engineer working for Cisco Systems, that was in HS...


Tonice2007
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reply to devicemanage
Well,you comment/suggestion is very much appreciated...

But, I would still want a 1Gbps network, for the fact that I will have server(s) up and running, for schoolwork and for business...



phantasm11b
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Well I'm glad you went through the courses for CCNA/CCNP. Di you get certified?

You've been given plenty of advice on what you need to consider to accomplish your goals. You need to sit down and work out a budget for your project and see where that takes you. A Gig network is a nice thing to have, but is it cost effective?



61999674
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reply to Tonice2007
Well this is way OT but, if the building is a Historical Landmark you may not be able to "change" anything, much less "destroy it and rebuild it from scratch".

This would be especially true if it is listed in The Historic Preservation Office books.
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Tonice2007
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said by phantasm11b:

Well I'm glad you went through the courses for CCNA/CCNP. Di you get certified?

You've been given plenty of advice on what you need to consider to accomplish your goals. You need to sit down and work out a budget for your project and see where that takes you. A Gig network is a nice thing to have, but is it cost effective?
Well the funny part was that I went through the trainning, but didn't get certified, since I didn't want to back then...

Well, my question still stands, can someone recommend a 1Gbps switch that has 24/48 ports which doesn't include a uplink port?

Preferably, Cisco?

said by 61999674:

Well this is way OT but, if the building is a Historical Landmark you may not be able to "change" anything, much less "destroy it and rebuild it from scratch".

This would be especially true if it is listed in The Historic Preservation Office books.
Well, I bet you that if I had a million dollars, to "make" the Department of Buildings, to allow me to rebuild this house, it will be passed, without waiting on line or anything...


rovernet
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Since you'd prefer Cisco, check the 2960G models, featuring 20 & 44 10/100/1000 ports plus some uplink:

»www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6···son.html

Another option, HP ProCurve's 2800 & 2810 models, solid and reliable switches:

»www.hp.com/rnd/products/index.htm



shdesigns
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reply to Tonice2007

quote:
Well, my question still stands, can someone recommend a 1Gbps switch that has 24/48 ports which doesn't include a uplink port?
Gigabit spec specifies all ports are MDI/MDX, so no uplink needed on any gig switch.

Tonice2007
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Well, I just needed a uplink port because, I have 48 ports or would you say 48 wall connections, and need one to connect the switch to the router, this is where the uplink comes into play...


Insder
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...As shdesigns See Profile stated..all the ports are auto MDX. They will become uplink if hooked to another hub/switch/router. No specific uplink port needed.
Edit: Also, there is no need to get a gigabit WAN in Brooklyn. Nobody is giving you gigabit anytime soon...at least before that router is ancient. 10/100 will be just fine for the future, at least 10 years out I'd venture to guess. Unless you're planning on getting some sort of OC in there.
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Tonice2007
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Well, I understand that part where I could just use a regular port as my uplink, but I don't think your understanding me, I need 49/50 connections counting if I have 1/2 uplinks to my router, meaning I have 48 connections not counting my uplinks...

And I wanted to host some of my own servers, FTP & Web & DNS...



tschmidt
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said by Tonice2007:

I need 49/50 connections counting if I have 1/2 uplinks to my router,
To do that you have several options:

1) Single switch with enough ports.

2) Stackable switch modules to get enough ports.

3) Use more then one switch to get enough ports.

/tom

ChiTang
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reply to Tonice2007
50 connections (plus uplinks to more connections) in a HOME/OFFICE setup. WOW, you need a bigger house.
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Tonice2007
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well, no not really, let's say for the standard configuration, 4 ports per Bedroom, that already makes 12 and 6 for the living room, 4 for the kitchen, another 6 for the attic, and last but not least 2 for the outside bathroom...

So, lets see that is 30 ports, and I don't have ports for the media center (probally another 2 or 4 ports) and the basement...

So, with the amount of expaniability I would like, it would be a safe bet to get like 48 ports...



PetePuma
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Do you actually have 48 devices to wire up at the beginning? There's nothing that says you have to make every drop in the house live on Day 1.


Tonice2007
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reply to Tonice2007
So, from my understanding, there would not be any ISP that would be able to provide 100+ Mbps internet connection; which would mean that I don't need 1Gpbs switches/routers...


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