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globus999
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Re: Moronic ISPs!
said by Ikarasu  :Pretty sure CAIP consists of more then just Teksavvy. Theres A LOT of ISPs against bell, and standing up/fighting for their rights... Teksavvy is just in the spotlight because it has the most active users. If you bother to read the forums...You'd see that at least Acanac is vocal about the fight also. Daaaa.. really?
If you would bother READING the forums, you would realize that I was in it from the beginning.
The issue is not CAIP or NOT CAIP; the issue is TACTICS.
What has CAIP done so far?
A few CRTC submissions.. WOW big WOF!
A few rants in these forums... WOW big WOF!
An incipient "lobby" effort... WOW big WOF!
What has CAIP accomplished so far?
ZERO!!! ZILCH!!! NADA!!! NIENTE!!!
What have POTENTIAL customers of Roger's i-phone accoplished so far? ALMOST ALL that they wanted!!!
SEE the difference now??
PEOPLE POWER move MOUNTAINS!!
Private organization do BUPKUS!
So... in the spirit of positive critisizm, I am pointing out the obvious:
THE ONLY solution to this is: PEOPLE!
What is THE ONLY solution that ISPs are NOT doing: PEOPLE!
GEEEZZZZ!!!???
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HiVolt
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| said by globus999 :What has CAIP done so far? A few CRTC submissions.. WOW big WOF! A few rants in these forums... WOW big WOF! An incipient "lobby" effort... WOW big WOF! What has CAIP accomplished so far? ZERO!!! ZILCH!!! NADA!!! NIENTE!!! Why don't you save your negativity after the CRTC ruling, should the CRTC rule in favour of Bell.
Bell was in position of power, so they forced these changes on the wholesale ISP's. ISP's can't do anything but fight Bell thru the legal channels. They have been doing that.
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Ikarasu
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It seems to me you don't understand how things work. If you think Rogers caved because of a few thousand signatures... Why don't you start your own petition? Anyone on the Internet these days can get a few thousand signatures.
CRTC Submissions are whats going to decide whether it's legal for bell to throttle/impose new caps, if you think CRTC submissions are a big "WOF" then maybe it's time you get up, and do something about it yourself.
What you don't take into consideration is 75%(yes, a made up #) of people know nothing about ISPS, and could care less if theyre with Bell, Tekk, or some other ISP. As long as they can get their videos, music, whatever they want...theyre happy. They dont know the difference between 60 GB and 600 GB. With all the lies and spins bell puts on it, being able to do xx and xx, a simple mailing list to customers is not going to educate them on what Bell is doing.
CAIP has a lot of big names backing them, pointing out Bells flaws to CRTC, Aside from building their own network... it's pretty much the only financially suitable plan right now. | |
globus999
join:2008-05-15
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said by HiVolt :Why don't you save your negativity after the CRTC ruling, should the CRTC rule in favour of Bell. Because it IS a looser's strategy. Possesion is 9/10 of the law. In this case, a ruling is 9/10 of the law. Do you even KNOW what it would take to reverse a CRTC ruling? Nothing short of a judicial review!! And, as we all know and was acknowledged by Rocky, this is a NON-STARTER simply because it would cost a fortune. NOPE, the time to act is NOW, to force the CRTC to do the right thing! Waiting is suicidal!
said by HiVolt :Bell was in position of power, so they forced these changes on the wholesale ISP's. ISP's can't do anything but fight Bell thru the legal channels. They have been doing that. And WHO is advocating an ILLEGAL fight???? ISPs have the REQUIREMENT, let me say this again, the LEGAL REQUIREMENT to inform their customers of inpending changes to contractual agreements. They MUST inform to their customers that Bell is changing their contracts.
They have the RIGHT to petition to the government, just like you and me.
They have the RIGHT to let YOU know that Bell is changing your contract and provide you with the tools so that YOU can exercise your right to petition the government.
What have they done so far?
BUPKUS! | |
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