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NCRGuy

join:2008-03-03
Ottawa, ON

reply to bhahahaha
Re: CRTC says Oct. 31 will be the ruling

said by bhahahaha :

The copyright won't pass. As soon as an election is called all the pending bills will die. They will call the election long before Oct 31st.

BUT that is also a bad thing. Once an election is called all the depts are told no major announcements which may include the CRTC.
It won't include the CRTC. As an administrative tribunal they decide on their own when to hand down rulings.


bhahahaha

@teksavvy.com

reply to oh LOOK
The copyright won't pass. As soon as an election is called all the pending bills will die. They will call the election long before Oct 31st.

BUT that is also a bad thing. Once an election is called all the depts are told no major announcements which may include the CRTC.


chronoss2008
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reply to oh LOOK
BTW folks like i have said both the net neutrality and copyright seem to be getting linked, and that date of the CRTC decision is just at the same time the copyright bill WILL pass. YES it will. And then chaos will truly reign.
It won't matter about net neutrality when so much of what one can use HIGH SPEED for will be as little as a 500$ fine to as much as 20000 fine.

take pre 1958 dvd rips. All don't have copyright so no problem right?
Not with the new law, the anti circumvention makes that a 20,000 $ fine.
Whats the issue grab the full dvdr right?
Well back to bell/rogers throttling, do i dl a 4.3 gb file throttled or a 700 to 1.4 gb xvid dvdrip?
HRM big decision there.....

So get used to it all cause it aint going to go well.
And in a year when 3/4 of the high speed users just stop using high speed.....
they will cry piracy is the problem and bring worse laws.
Even though it isn't the real problem.

GREED.


anon149

@vaxination.ca

reply to DR_JAY
>I think I know why the CRTC has delayed their ruling. They
>have been too busy looking at the new porn channel.
>http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/story.html?id=36aa16ff-aee4-4cd1-9dd6-83a720dd73c8

What do they mean when they talk about 50% canadian content ?

The boys are canadian and the girls are foreign ? The actors have a canadian father and a foreign mother ?

Will the condoms used in the movies be made in canada, complete with a red canadian flag and a logo of a beaver on them ?

More importantly, will the movies be set in Canada, or just shot in Canada but with US flags and US postal boxes on streets with US license plates on cars to make it appear to be in the USA ?

Never thought of Edmonton as a porn production place. I wonder if they will be able to shoot some movies at West Edmonton Mall ?


DR_JAY

join:2002-04-23
Verdun, QC


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reply to oh LOOK
I think I know why the CRTC has delayed their ruling. They have been too busy looking at the new porn channel.

»www.canada.com/windsorstar/story···20dd73c8


Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON

reply to Turbinator
said by Turbinator See Profile :

I don't understand why they didn't choose December 31, it only makes sense.
Imagine if they would have chosen April 1st that would really have been a riot.

After viewing the big picture my money is on Bell winning this thing hands down, they will also win the bandwidth cap no problem.

Power does what it wants.

Kyolux

join:2008-04-24
reply to k6richar
rumors for next season elections have been going on for almost or more then a year already.

k6richar

join:2008-06-17
Kitchener, ON
reply to oh LOOK
october 31st
news stations will be covering halloween
basicly the general public will never hear about it
i keep hearing rumours about a fall election hopefully we could make net neutrality an election issue


Turbinator

join:2007-10-14
Mississauga, ON
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reply to HiVolt
said by HiVolt See Profile :

My god, October 31st???!!! That's ridiculous.
I don't understand why they didn't choose December 31, it only makes sense.


drjp81

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reply to SALAMANCA
I don't supposte this was really directed at me? Was it?
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jerrycan

join:2008-04-03
Kitchener, ON
reply to oh LOOK
The Internet sucks. Back to Fidonet for me. RUFF!


SALAMANCA

join:2008-06-07
Toronto, ON
reply to drjp81
»www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008···?ref=rss


drjp81

join:2006-01-09
canada
reply to beamer69
Love it!
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Guspaz
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reply to anone149
JF: The ruling is likely delayed because various things delayed the process with involved parties. If they were originally intending to rule at the end of September, they may have simply decided to delay a month due to the delays in the overall procedure.

The CRTC did not decide that CAIP members were not harmed by Bell's practices. You're basically completely wrong on that count. They merely decided that they had not suffered IRREPARABLE harm. That is, harm that cannot be compensated for monetarily. And since you can attach a dollar value to everything from lost business to increased customer service costs to inability to effectively utilize/plan AHSSPI links, that makes sense; the CRTC's requirements are far too strict.

beamer69

join:2007-05-10
Burnaby, BC

reply to oh LOOK
quote:
The modern holiday of Halloween has its origins in the ancient Celtic festival known as Samhain (Irish pronunciation: [ˈsˠaunʲ]; from the Old Irish samain).[2] The festival of Samhain is a celebration of the end of the harvest season in Gaelic culture, and is sometimes [3] regarded as the "Celtic New Year".[4] Traditionally, the festival was a time used by the ancient pagans to take stock of supplies and slaughter livestock for winter stores. The ancient Gaels believed that on October 31, the boundary between the alive and the deceased dissolved, and the dead become dangerous for the living by causing problems such as sickness or damaged crops. The festivals would frequently involve bonfires, where the bones of slaughtered livestock were thrown. Costumes and masks were also worn at the festivals in an attempt to mimic the evil spirits or placate them.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

quote:
The modern holiday of Belloween has its origins in the ancient CRTC rulings. Traditionally, the festival was a time used by ancient Bell to take stock of supplies and slaughter wholesalers for winter stores. The ancient Bell believed that on October 31, the boundary between the alive and the deceased dissolved, and Bell became dangerous for people by causing problems such as throttling or damaging the internet. The festivals would frequently involve DPI boxes, where the TCP packets of slaughtered torrents were thrown. Fudged numbers and false statistics were also thrown at the CRTC in an attempt to mimic the truth and placate the public.
I guess this year it will be Belloween on Oct 31


j3richo

join:2007-12-08
Gatineau, QC
reply to oh LOOK
damn it, that's an entire month more than what was expected!


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reply to oh LOOK
said by oh LOOK :

Per the new posting on the CRTC website(»www.crtc.gc.ca/PartVII/eng/2008/···5153.htm) they expect to have a ruling on Oct. 31st.
Halloween. How appropriate. Let's hope it's not a truly horrifying result.
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chronoss2008
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reply to oh LOOK
they want to ensure the new copyright bill gets passed by the liberal-conservative party of canada.

This then ensures they can get away with tons more stuff.

Someone buy me a printer and the ink, ill make sure peterborough never fergets......


anone149

@vaxination.ca

reply to Arbalister
> Delay ?

CRTC originally promised a ruling by mid-september.

Since the CRTC wasn't going to start working on this until the end of august after vacation, the delays in the filings are not the real reason for this delay in CRTC rendering a decision.

The fact that the CRTC decided that CAIP members were not harmed by Bell's DPI equipment (the may 15th injunction ruling) is probably a good indication of where they are heading. It is just a question of properly managing public perception so that there are no public backlashes.

HINT to CAIP: public opinion is the only thing that can force the CRTC to side with us, and remaining silent between now and the CRTC decision will ensure the CRTC can side with bell without any public opinion backlash. They don't car about a few hundred geeks. Media will have a 15 second report on it and will move on on oct 31.

(especially since the liberals aren't interested, the Reform party knows this isn't an important issue and donations from Bell is more important than votes from a few hundred geeks).

k6richar

join:2008-06-17
Kitchener, ON
reply to oh LOOK
If the CRTC sides with bell does teksavvy have some backup plans to fight bell? Perhaps an anti competative lawsuit or something?
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