BF69
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Camden, TN
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Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers
said by TKJunkMail  :Stop all ads - targeted or not. For Firefox: » adblockplus.org/en/For IE7: » www.ie7pro.com/And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google. Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was. First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data.
As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free. |
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TKJunkMail
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1 edit | said by BF69 :said by TKJunkMail :Stop all ads - targeted or not. For Firefox: » adblockplus.org/en/For IE7: » www.ie7pro.com/And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google. Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was. First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data. As far as ad blockers, you do realize the reason why you can surf MILLIONS of sites for FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads, sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my time, work and money building a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free. Of course, you can start charging for your site. That is your prerogative. But would anyone pay for it? That is why most sites are still free - no one would pay a nickel to go to them if they charged. Maybe the web needs a lot less sites if people won't pay to go to them.
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amungus
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Good point. No they don't block transmissions of your activity, though some might stop the requests for some ads. Still won't stop your request for the top level site(s).
However, in my opinion, blockers are meant less for blocking sane, real ads than for blocking possibly infected, annoying ads. There are just too many off site ads these days, some leading to who knows where. Soon as you hit a site that's had its database and/or ads compromised by some SQL injection exploit, and you load those files, you've been compromised without "doing" anything, or going "somewhere bad" at all... Too many people are sick of it.
I take a much different stance than you on ads. I've hosted a (few) site(s) for some years now with zero ads, and don't plan on changing that any time soon.
Yes, It's my time, my money, and it's there for YOU to enjoy if you'd like. I put it there on my own terms, so that others can enjoy it on their own terms as well - take it or leave it. I would never consider charging somebody to simply view a site, unless its content were of some extra special value, in which case people could then buy into it. Take the adult industry for example - yeah, that's different, and yeah, they have the right to charge for access to the content - but NOT for simply stopping by.
You should realize you can surf to MILLIONS of sites for free WITHOUT ads, because some people realize that the internet is more about simple freedom than commerce only.
Before all the "e-commerce" insanity, the internet was far less cluttered with narrow minded people. I kind of miss it in a nostalgic kind of way. Most sites were just simple, and the word "flash" actually meant something other than the basis for usually crap quality video, CPU clogging code, and horrid excuses for site design... not to mention highly annoying ADS |
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said by BF69 :said by TKJunkMail :Stop all ads - targeted or not. For Firefox: » adblockplus.org/en/For IE7: » www.ie7pro.com/And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google. Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was. First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data. As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free. Hopefully the beer is. |
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said by BF69 :said by TKJunkMail :Stop all ads - targeted or not. For Firefox: » adblockplus.org/en/For IE7: » www.ie7pro.com/And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google. Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was. First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data. As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free. You want me to come to your site for a reason, so YOU pay to try and get ME to come there. I call BS on you, Sir/Maam |
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amungus
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Hey TK, I don't WANT your money! Nor do many other people who wish for their sites to be free in the first place.
If you offered me money out of the kindness of your heart, just because you wanted to show your support, or because you liked the site(s), or because you felt like being nice, guess what? I still wouldn't want it. Now, if you bought something I was selling, sure, have at it; give me all the money you want in that case. Buy one for your friends... |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by TKJunkMail :said by BF69 :said by TKJunkMail :Stop all ads - targeted or not. For Firefox: » adblockplus.org/en/For IE7: » www.ie7pro.com/And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google. Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was. First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data. As far as ad blockers, you do realize the reason why you can surf MILLIONS of sites for FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads, sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my time, work and money building a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free. Of course, you can start charging for your site. That is your prerogative. But would anyone pay for it? That is why most sites are still free - no one would pay a nickel to go to them if they charged. Maybe the web needs a lot less sites if people won't pay to go to them. So I should spend money on bandwidth and hosting and other thigns just so you can surf for free? See the whole point is that if you are going to COST me money I don't want yo on my site in the first place.
Your logic is like telling McDonald's if they don't give you free food you won't eat there. So what. Your eating for FREE costs them money so they don't need you anyways. I hate to burst your bubble but 99% of what's on the internet is there to MAKE MONEY.
I'd rather have 1000 visitors a month paying me $30 a year than 1 million leaching my bandwidth and using adblockers.
let me ask you a question. Your boss says he now expects you to work for FREE. Do you? |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by SillyRabbit :said by BF69 :said by TKJunkMail :Stop all ads - targeted or not. For Firefox: » adblockplus.org/en/For IE7: » www.ie7pro.com/And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google. Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was. First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data. As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free. You want me to come to your site for a reason, so YOU pay to try and get ME to come there. I call BS on you, Sir/Maam Are you stupid? Seriously. Your post prove you have ZERO clue to how the intenet works. |
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said by BF69 :said by TKJunkMail :Stop all ads - targeted or not. For Firefox: » adblockplus.org/en/For IE7: » www.ie7pro.com/And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google. Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was. First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data. As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free. Your pro corporation drivel is a spitting image of the guy trying to block FF users from viewing his site.
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TKJunkMail
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said by BF69 :let me ask you a question. Your boss says he now expects you to work for FREE. Do you? I'm retired. I am my own boss managing my investments. |
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said by BF69 :said by TKJunkMail :Stop all ads - targeted or not. For Firefox: » adblockplus.org/en/For IE7: » www.ie7pro.com/And as far as collecting your browsing history, all ISPs can do it and they don't need DPI to accomplish it. And a monolith like Google which controls 70% of the search activity on the net, can do the same thing. And with Google's tie-in with DoubleClick that reach expands to many sites not related to Google. Face it - there is little to no privacy while browsing and since the net was commercialized 20 years ago, there never was. First of all that doesn't from stop selling your data. As far as ad blocke, you do realize the rason why you can surfer MILLIONS of sitesf or FREE is because of ads. If everyone blocked ads sites would have no recourse but to start charging. Sorry, but if I'm taking my times, worka dfn money bulding a website for YOU to surf for FREE the least you can do is put up with some ads. If not, then sorry you must PAY to come to my site. Bandwidth, hosting and my time isn't free. Your site will die very fast if your make it pay only. Information generally on the internet is free, so while it's your prerogative, you will find that most if not all people will simple move on to another website. |
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jarthur31
join:2006-04-14
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BS! The Internet was supposed to be an information resource not a giant flea market.
If you can't provide a website free, then by all means don't do it. And don't piss off the viewing public by loading crapware. |
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Dryv1yne
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| said by jarthur31 :BS! The Internet was supposed to be an information resource not a giant flea market. Key phrase there "supposed to be"... until commercialization raped and pillaged it. |
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said by BF69 :So I should spend money on bandwidth and hosting and other thigns just so you can surf for free? See the whole point is that if you are going to COST me money I don't want yo on my site in the first place. ... Just because you invest time or money in something doesn't automatically make it worth anything to anyone else.
Besides... hosting is so cheap these days, I have to wonder exactly what you're serving that you are worried about any of this. I mean, I pay roughly $6/month for up to 100GB of bandwidth, 10GB of space... and this is not a very liberal host by some standards!
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