ultrasroma
join:2008-07-16 Waterloo, ON
| Rapidshare throttled!! Everyone by now should know that Bell is throttling badly any P2P.
However I discovered today that Bell is also capping Rapidshare!!! I have a premium account and I'm being capped since 6PM to a meager 10k/s!!!!
I'm so glad I'm switching to another provider. I'm considering cancelling my phone line either. No more Bell for me. A pity as for the first three years I had no complain against them. Now everything seems falling apart. | |
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  ah ok
@videotron.ca
| Re: Rapidshare throttled!! said by ultrasroma : No more Bell for me. Ah so your changing to cable so that Bell doesn't steal your money via a 3rd party dsl provider.
Good choice. | |
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 |   sbrook Premium,Mod join:2001-12-14 H0H 0H0 | Re: Rapidshare throttled!! A 3rd party DSL isn't likely to be any benefit anyway ... | |
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  Deadpool Go Sens Go Premium,VIP join:2001-03-29 Canada
·Bell Sympatico
| I'm going to ask you how you came to the conclusion that Rapidshare is being throttled?
I mean, if it were, you'd be capped at 30 KBps from 4:30 pm to 2 am, not 6 pm. -- Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies. | |
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 |  ultrasroma
join:2008-07-16 Waterloo, ON
| Re: Rapidshare throttled!! What happens actually is that the download speed abruptly decrease even to the point of sometimes stopping. However around 6 PM I experienced a significant decrease (170k to 6k, unexplainable indeed. Now, speed is okay even though it is far from perfect. The main problem about the throttling is that there is not a clear pattern. Sometimes even at night I could be fully throttled for half an hour then it resumes to normal speed for 10 minutes then throttling for another 15 and so forth.
This unpredictable pattern is extremely annoying. Bell told us that throttling was needed in peak hours. However Bell continue to throttle 24/7 even though the throttling is less severe at night than during the evening, nonetheless it exists. The "peak hours" excuse is indeed poor or at least does not tell the whole truth. | |
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 bill boz
join:2005-08-01 Scarborough, ON | It must be something on your end as I have rapidshare premium and have always downloaded and uploaded at full line speed | |
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  MrMichael
@ucc-net.ca
| Since Rapidshare changed their gui, it went hand-in-hand with their free user download throttling.
Prior to this change (I guestimate 3 months ago), downloads were at your full throughput capacity. Now, however, all free access downloads are throttled to ~50kb/s. They probably use Ellacoya to do this.
Hopefully rapidshare will die out for another unthrottled service. | |
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 batkinson001
join:2006-08-07 Oshawa, ON
| I have also noticed this, i use the free download option on RS, eventhough its slow, its still usable until today where I was getting less than 10k/sec...my download never finished as it dropped off and died... Dunno why Bell would cap RS, they have 100MB size limits per file anyways. | |
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 qweloo
join:2007-10-04 h3p 2c4
·Bell Sympatico
| Yes confirmed. It started today. Rapidshare usually at 60k/s at peak times now at 10k/s around 8pm.
magically after 2Am, it is back to 60k/s.
So bell starting to expand the throttle to other protocol than p2p now. Slippery slope anyone ?
I guess that is their definition of a bettER customer experience.
How about ER for Bell-hatER ? because that is what a lot of people are becoming fast.
Dont worry my bell-hatER friends: this company will self-destruct itself until it sees reason or files for bankruptcy. The MBA geniuses and marketing gurus left who have never touched a server in their life or downloaded anything bigger than 100Mb will finish the job started by the other idiots who got unloaded ... I guess that is cause for celebration. | |
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 Reimer
join:2006-08-14 Toronto, ON
| If you guys hadn't noticed, Rapidshare changed their policies with regards to their free access.
In return for getting rid of captchas, they limited free downloads to 50-60KB/s. So no, it's not a result of throttling.
If you're a premium user and it's still slow, it's more likely Rapidshare is having problems on their own end. That's why they've also limited premium users to 5GB of bandwidth a day recently to combat a huge influx in new users. | |
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 |   Bellundo
@teksavvy.com | Re: Rapidshare throttled!! Keep reading and take a look at qweloo's reply. | |
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 zmanx
join:2008-11-05 Richmond Hill, ON
| yup , just got teksavvy and guess what , i noticed something is wrong with downloads from rapidshare 10k speeds , i was like what the ... i just had rogers and it was doing 300k/sec
so i connected the rogers and it still does 300k/sec on the same file
lol so i called teksavvy and so far .. they seem to try to ignore the issue.. saying my line is set low .. they need to pick it up.
anyway , i was looking and found this forum .. too bad i really liked teksavvy .. but i guess i have to stick with the India support from rogers
dam the CRTC sucks we got no competition in this place grrr | |
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 |  |  |   Deadpool Go Sens Go Premium,VIP join:2001-03-29 Canada
·Bell Sympatico
| It's not. If Rapidshare was throttled, it would fall under the same rules of throttling: 30 KBps, not 10 KBps.
Since the issue is on the DSL side and not Rogers, what's the line sync profile, speed test results, modem stats, etc... -- Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies. | |
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 |  |  DjEclipse
join:2007-11-20 Niagara Falls, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| said by HiVolt :So get a $60 linksys wrt54gl, enable mlppp and see if its still 10k/sec. Or if you're using windows, simply create a pppoe connection, enable mlppp checkbox and off you go. dont concede this quickly. +1 | |
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| said by HiVolt :So get a $60 linksys wrt54gl, enable mlppp and see if its still 10k/sec. Or if you're using windows, simply create a pppoe connection, enable mlppp checkbox and off you go. dont concede this quickly. Is this answer applicable across the board (all ISPs), or ISPs that have mlppp support? | |
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join:2006-01-09 canada | Re: Rapidshare throttled!! Only providers that support MLPPP. Which Bell isn't one of, of course... -- Cheers! | |
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  JimmyArms
join:2008-01-09 Sault Ste Marie, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | I've been having all sorts of problems with rapidshare for months now and as far as I can tell, it's rapidshare that is the problem. Trying to upload or download anything at anytime is a crap shoot and a big pain in the ass now.
No problems with other hosts. Mediafire, Netload, Megaupload all work fine. Good uploads speeds and double or triple the download speeds. Downloading right now from a place called 2Shared at over 500kB/sec on my 5MB line. Suck it rapidshare.
I switched to megaupload. | |
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 Mantixx
join:2004-01-31 Windsor, ON
| Well, I'm a 'Usenetserver' user who pays $15 a month for their 'services' and my once 467k/s connection is now down to 60k/s.
I can start it up at anytime of the day and within seconds it immediately drops down. A buddy from work also has an account (we swap stuff - twice the D/L that way , anyways I call him as its happening and his account is rock solid. So its not Usenet... its BELL. Line is CLEAN as a whistle.
So are they starting to throttle individuals who still have unlimited accounts? If so, time to jump ship. | |
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 |   Deadpool Go Sens Go Premium,VIP join:2001-03-29 Canada | Re: Rapidshare throttled!! If you're able to get 60 KBps after 6 pm, it's not throttling since it's set to a max speed of 30 KBps at that time. -- Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies. | |
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 |   HiVolt 29 Premium join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON clubs:
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| said by Mantixx :Well, I'm a 'Usenetserver' user who pays $15 a month for their 'services' and my once 467k/s connection is now down to 60k/s. I can start it up at anytime of the day and within seconds it immediately drops down. A buddy from work also has an account (we swap stuff - twice the D/L that way  , anyways I call him as its happening and his account is rock solid. So its not Usenet... its BELL. Line is CLEAN as a whistle. So are they starting to throttle individuals who still have unlimited accounts? If so, time to jump ship. Try the UNS IP Routing tool, see if changing a route helps.
»https://monitor.usenetserver.com/cgi-bin/routeselect -- GO LEAFS GO! | |
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 JackTruong
join:2005-03-29 Waterloo, ON
|  Not constant |
I've been noticing a few problems with RS too. Using my DD-WRT's bandwidth monitoring page and a Rapidshare premium account.
The line on the left side is a download through Rapidshare premium. On the right is a download of Ubuntu from a server in Sweden. | |
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 |   Bellundo
@bell.ca | Re: Rapidshare throttled!! Take another look at your picture. There is no line at the left or right. Both lines are on top of each other. | |
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  don43
@bell.ca | rapidshare rapidSTINKS  | |
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  intelceleron11
@acanac.net
from: CanadianIron 
| First off, remember that it's not one gigantic server that throttles every user individually. Sandvine affects people in different locations differently, so saying that "I don't have that problem" doesn't necessarily mean that bell isn't doing it - I'm sure they have some scripting available to manage more than p2p traffic if need be.
Secondly, I haven't experienced the free rapidshare capping that other people are saying - in fact I have in the past got 400-500k/s download on rapidshare, but during peak times, it went down to around 100k/s - not bad, not great. So really, I'm not sure what some people are talking about with their 50k/s throttling according to rapidshare's website or whatever.
I wouldn't put it past bell though to throttle other types of downloading. I can only download from youtube at 30k/s ... co-incidence? Maybe.. but I think not. | |
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  intelceleron11
@acanac.net
thumbs down from: CanadianIron 
| Oh one more thing.. Deadpool - people with Bell (or any DSL that goes through bell) isn't necessarily capped at 30k/s. I was capped at 45k/s for the longest time, now I"ve been capped to 20k/s. It's different for each person's location and population density, relative to the bandwidth available (bell is still full of crap and will collapse. I swear it's because they gave away so many free months of service.) | |
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 |   Deadpool Go Sens Go Premium,VIP join:2001-03-29 Canada
·Bell Sympatico
| Re: Rapidshare throttled!! said by intelceleron11 :
Oh one more thing.. Deadpool - people with Bell (or any DSL that goes through bell) isn't necessarily capped at 30k/s. I was capped at 45k/s for the longest time, now I"ve been capped to 20k/s. It's different for each person's location and population density, relative to the bandwidth available (bell is still full of crap and will collapse. I swear it's because they gave away so many free months of service.) You're mis-informed, sorry. -- Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies. | |
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@teksavvy.com
from: CanadianIron 
| Re: Rapidshare throttled!! this is a sad state of affairs. when people all over the world are building infrastructure that can handle more exchange of information bell is playing tricks on its users to squeeze out a few millions of dollars of cashflow when it's involved in an ill conceived LBO that will raise its debt payments through the roof. why are they going the private route? no one really knows, they were just fine as a public corporation from a financial standpoint... it's utter nonsense to see a company become so confrontational with its own customers though....
and Deadpool u seem like a smart man yet you so stubbornly keep trying to defend all that bell is doing. listen man the moment some big head honcho way up the food chain decides that your dept. needs to be culled you'll be offloaded in no time. all your loyalty and all the hours you clock don't matter. heck even some guys on bay street who were making more than half a mil working over 100 hours a week were let go just like that. and now they're desperately trying to find a job that'll pay for their bills.
read this it'll open your eyes: www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/546877
take a breather and realize that this company has long lost its rudder. | |
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·Bell Sympatico
| Re: Rapidshare throttled!! said by misguidedloyalty :
this is a sad state of affairs. when people all over the world are building infrastructure that can handle more exchange of information bell is playing tricks on its users to squeeze out a few millions of dollars of cashflow when it's involved in an ill conceived LBO that will raise its debt payments through the roof. why are they going the private route? no one really knows, they were just fine as a public corporation from a financial standpoint... it's utter nonsense to see a company become so confrontational with its own customers though....
and Deadpool u seem like a smart man yet you so stubbornly keep trying to defend all that bell is doing. listen man the moment some big head honcho way up the food chain decides that your dept. needs to be culled you'll be offloaded in no time. all your loyalty and all the hours you clock don't matter. heck even some guys on bay street who were making more than half a mil working over 100 hours a week were let go just like that. and now they're desperately trying to find a job that'll pay for their bills.
read this it'll open your eyes: www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/546877
take a breather and realize that this company has long lost its rudder. I don't defend - I simply understand how big business works, as do others on this forum. Whether I agree with it or not is not relevant.
And whether I were to lose my job or not wouldn't change my understanding that every big business has one goal: profits. -- Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies. | |
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join:2006-10-08 Beverly Hills, CA
1 edit | Re: Rapidshare throttled!! said by Deadpool :And whether I were to lose my job or not wouldn't change my understanding that every big business has one goal: profits. That is a fact that business exists to make a profit.
Luckily some big business have other goals such as providing better service than the competition. Competing by meeting their customers needs. Always striving to improve. Being efficient. Treating customers like partners, building symbiotic relationships with them. | |
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·Bell Sympatico
| Re: Rapidshare throttled!! said by CanadianIron :said by Deadpool :And whether I were to lose my job or not wouldn't change my understanding that every big business has one goal: profits. That is a fact that business exists to make a profit. Luckily some big business have other goals such as providing better service than the competition. Competing by meeting their customers needs. Always striving to improve. Being efficient. Treating customers like partners, building symbiotic relationships with them. What you've described is a small business, IMO. No big business I know does all of those things successfully. -- Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies. | |
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from: CanadianIron 
| Re: Rapidshare throttled!! General Electric. | |
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 |  |   Angelo_ The Network Guy Premium join:2002-06-18
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| said by Deadpool :said by intelceleron11 :
Oh one more thing.. Deadpool - people with Bell (or any DSL that goes through bell) isn't necessarily capped at 30k/s. I was capped at 45k/s for the longest time, now I"ve been capped to 20k/s. It's different for each person's location and population density, relative to the bandwidth available (bell is still full of crap and will collapse. I swear it's because they gave away so many free months of service.) You're mis-informed, sorry. I'll tend to agree with DP, DPI is PVC specific... in terms of how throttling works
there can be amny reasons why you were getting higher speeds then the "norm".
Also DPI doesn't always work correctly as it has been proven in the past. | |
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  xPBxNaStY
join:2007-08-17 Harrow, ON | how do i enable mlppp after i crate a new connection? | |
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