 markofmayhem
join:2004-04-08 Pittsburgh, PA | Cry...
As comcast is my only broadband option for internet, the future cap and throttle announcement saddens me greatly.  |
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  funchords Hello Premium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Washington, DC
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| said by markofmayhem :As comcast is my only broadband option for internet, the future cap and throttle announcement saddens me greatly. You do realize that P2P interference and a bandwidth cap already are there, they just were unannounced. Now Comcast will have to be honest about what it is offering. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon More fun, more features, Join BroadbandReports.com, it's free...
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  NOZIREV
join:2008-07-10 New Bedford, MA | reply to markofmayhem really... 250GB is a pretty reasonable cap you must be a pirate, ARRRRRR Matey  |
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  Rob In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL
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| reply to funchords said by funchords :said by markofmayhem :As comcast is my only broadband option for internet, the future cap and throttle announcement saddens me greatly. You do realize that P2P interference and a bandwidth cap already are there, they just were unannounced. Now Comcast will have to be honest about what it is offering. Which will only hurt the consumer, not help them. |
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| reply to funchords Yaknow, "above DSL speeds" could mean an *increase* in connectin speeds for those throttled . I mean, Qwest has 20 Mbps DSL and 5 Mbps in most places, Windstream has 12 Mbps DSL...I have 8 Mbps Comcast w\PowerBoost so it all depends on how you interpret "above DSL speeds"  |
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 iansltx
join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO | reply to NOZIREV Or do online backup. Yes, otherwise 250GB is reasonable and even for P2P I'd think it'd be fine, but for online backup stuff I'm not so sure. |
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  NOZIREV
join:2008-07-10 New Bedford, MA | agreed, but there are other ways to back stuff up but i hear ya barkin big dog. |
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| It is the consensus of geeks worldwide that offsite backup is the only real backup. This can be done one of two ways: sneakernet or internet. The latter makes much more sense because nothing physical has to be moved from point A to point B in an effort to keep the stuff on that media safe. The data just goes over the network.
But wait...with crap...er...caps, you can't back up all your videos (not movies, videos...the ones you take yourself), photos and other rich media, and cloud computing stops working the way it should.
Microsoft is working on Midori, a cloud computing centric OS. It ain't gonna work on a capped broadband infrastructure nearly as well as a regular desktop...looks like Microsoft will get a lot of FiOS customers but few others for their new concept :/ |
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| reply to iansltx said by iansltx :Yaknow, "above DSL speeds" could mean an *increase* in connectin speeds for those throttled  . I mean, Qwest has 20 Mbps DSL and 5 Mbps in most places, Windstream has 12 Mbps DSL...I have 8 Mbps Comcast w\PowerBoost so it all depends on how you interpret "above DSL speeds" HaHaHa! They mean the new FCC definition of "broadband" speed (768Kbps), I'm sure...  |
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  Rick Premium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT clubs: 
4 edits | reply to funchords said by funchords :said by markofmayhem :As comcast is my only broadband option for internet, the future cap and throttle announcement saddens me greatly. You do realize that P2P interference and a bandwidth cap already are there, they just were unannounced. Now Comcast will have to be honest about what it is offering. And you do realize that 250 gigs would be less than the 300 to 400 gigs that was previously allowed until the hogs decided even that wasn't enough and decided to try to turn what was always meant to be a residential service at a residential price into something resembling their own private dedicated network that otherwise someone would have to pay thousands for each month.
Nice gig I guess to want a thousand dollar a month connection for 42 bucks but that's just not how it works.
As for honesty Rob..I also think honesty comes in many flavors...such as posting threads and then having it ultimately discovered by a poster that you were suing the company and seeking support for class action status. That certainly put a different spin and light on your posts entirely IMHO with that "unannounced" disclosure. |
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| said by Rick :said by funchords :said by markofmayhem :As comcast is my only broadband option for internet, the future cap and throttle announcement saddens me greatly. You do realize that P2P interference and a bandwidth cap already are there, they just were unannounced. Now Comcast will have to be honest about what it is offering. And you do realize that 250 gigs would be less than the 300 to 400 gigs that was previously allowed until the hogs decided even that wasn't enough and decided to try to turn what was always meant to be a residential service at a residential price into something resembling their own private dedicated network that otherwise someone would have to pay thousands for each month. Nice gig I guess to want a thousand dollar a month connection for 42 bucks but that's just not how it works. As for honesty Rob..I also think honesty comes in many flavors...such as posting threads and then having it ultimately discovered by a poster that you were suing the company and seeking support for class action status. That certainly put a different spin and light on your posts entirely IMHO with that "unannounced" lack of disclosure. Why? He found something that was not being disclosed, they blatantly lied about it, and are being sued. Sounds about right to me. |
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1 edit | said by ptrowski :Why? He found something that was not being disclosed, they blatantly lied about it, and are being sued. Sounds about right to me. Hmm..seems like you're missing a few steps...not to mention the entire point of my comment.
You might want to educate yourself about what happened here in this thread..starting first with the "woe is me..comcast is attacking poor little old me"....which ultimately led up to the discovery on page 3 of the thread by TKJunkmail that perhaps the reason they had something to say about him was because of his undisclosed lawsuit seeking class action ..Ie: support from the members of the board he apparently hoped would be joining in on the suit.
»Complain about Comcast=Have your Reputation Scrutinized
It's particularly interesting to note the date of the suit and compare that to the date of the first post in the thread and then see if that "undisclosure" would have put a different light on things he had to say.
I sure think it would have.
In any event...back on topic...personally I hope they do institute caps. It's time for the high consumption users to pay their share and stop having everyone else subsidize this outrageous behavior and enough..is never enough..usage. |
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  Corehhi
join:2002-01-28 Bluffton, SC | reply to Rick Re: Cry...
Good point. Some of these people have gone nuts with bandwidth.
If running business volume you should pay a business rate. |
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| reply to Rick They already instituted caps, remember the letters they send telling you to use [undefined] less bandwidth or be cutoff?
I agree that 250GB is reasonable, it works out to 4 people each using 2GB per day, which can be expected from "high speed internet". It's the bullshit 50GB caps that get people upset. If Comcast stops forging packets and advertising unlimited while setting secret limits, we can have a better relationship with them. |
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| reply to Rick said by Rick :said by ptrowski :Why? He found something that was not being disclosed, they blatantly lied about it, and are being sued. Sounds about right to me. Hmm..seems like you're missing a few steps...not to mention the entire point of my comment. You might want to educate yourself about what happened here in this thread..starting first with the "woe is me..comcast is attacking poor little old me"....which ultimately led up to the "revelation" that perhaps the reason they had something to say about him was because of his undisclosed lawsuit seeking class action ..Ie: support from the members of the board he apparently hoped would be joining in on the suit. » Complain about Comcast=Have your Reputation ScrutinizedIn any event...back on topic...personally I hope they do institute caps. It's time for the high consumption users to pay their share and stop having everyone else subsidize this outrageous behavior and enough..is never enough..usage. I didn't miss a few steps, and am well aware of that thread. I don't see how that has anything to do with the FCC has now posted the order. Robb used the information he found out to start a lawsuit. I don't think he ever said that he wasn't suing them. As a matter of fact it was on a website. -- "A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend."
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| reply to iansltx Once companies are required to show everything relevant about their service, the numbers can be used as a basis for competition. It worked well enough for download speeds, there was a real push to keep improving them. As more people hit transfer caps, and the information is available, there will be a competition to provide higher transfer caps. |
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 markofmayhem
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| reply to NOZIREV Nope, not a pirate. I'm an avid video- and audio-holic that gets legal content in legal manners, plus do video and audio editing/mastering as a semi-professional hobby, plus administer IT networks for many small business (online backup, you bet), plus tinker with opensource projects, plus relax with a video game here and there. I doubt I'll be over 250 in a month at anytime, but where does it end? If 250 is the end cap, what is the number to begin throttling? At what point will my daily usage of the internet become affected. I'll gladly take a lower throughput to 3 mbps and be just fine if I can get a clear definition of capacity restraints. No option, just 250=shutoff mystery number=throttle to ... 768? 1.5? At those speeds I will have to begin looking for options outside the home. I like working from home. |
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  Rick Premium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT clubs: 
| reply to ptrowski I think it all has plenty to do with each other.
Isp's including comcast have tried to police their networks in such a way the last few years to be as reasonable as possible IMHO. Instead of putting fixed numbers on bandwidth, they've attempted to be as flexible as possible and to deal with those abusing the networks with cautions to tone down their usage.
I've always thought that was a great way to operate and really resembled in a way the spirit of the internet itself in letting it be as free and open as possible. In particular, I think that comcast has been one of the most generous ones of all. I have yet to EVER see a post where anyone ever had a problem unless they hit the 300 to 400 gig amounts PER MONTH. And, even that was following a warning letter.
It's really too bad that some couldn't appreciate that and how generous it was. Instead..they criticized and criticized some more.
And now..I think they're going to reap what they've sown. Not only with comcast..but across the whole ISP world.
Some people have simply treated this 42 dollar a month service as if they paid 2 thousand a month for it. Their expectations and demands have been nothing short of outrageous. It's a residential service..not a private dedicated line for all their own use.
Maybe now they'll start to get a clue.
But..then again..maybe it will take the first big bill instead. -- The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic! |
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| said by Rick :I think it all has plenty to do with each other. Isp's including comcast have tried to police their networks in such a way the last few years to be as reasonable as possible IMHO. Instead of putting fixed numbers on bandwidth, they've attempted to be as flexible as possible and to deal with those abusing the networks with cautions to tone down their usage. I've always thought that was a great way to operate and really resembled in a way the spirit of the internet itself in letting it be as free and open as possible. In particular, I think that comcast has been one of the most generous ones of all. I have yet to EVER see a post where anyone ever had a problem unless they hit the 300 to 400 gig amounts PER MONTH. And, even that was following a warning letter. It's really too bad that some couldn't appreciate that and how generous it was. Instead..they criticized and criticized some more. And now..I think they're going to reap what they've sown. Not only with comcast..but across the whole ISP world. Some people have simply treated this 42 dollar a month service as if they paid 2 thousand a month for it. Their expectations and demands have been nothing short of outrageous. It's a residential service..not a private dedicated line for all their own use. Maybe now they'll start to get a clue. But..then again..maybe it will take the first big bill instead. So, you are for the caps to limit the bandwidth hogs, and the stated caps are now most likely a direct result of what Rob found. So I would imagine you would be one of Rob's #1 fans as he has now helped limit the bandwidth hogs you have been so vocal about.... -- "A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend."
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