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said by katarina :FWIW, I have always had the auto complete features in the IE Content tab de-selected, so what appears to be historical searches showing up now is very bizarre. I realize I should be able to delete them (and I will), I just am very uneasy that they are appearing at all ... especially since many are definitely not anything I ever entered. Edit: OK ... I was wrong. Even when using the IE tool to delete browsing history, these entries do not go away. They are not my entries. I intentionally made a typo in an entry and my entry does not appear on subsequent visits. The exact same entries in the Google search box in the middle of the page exist on two separate computers. FWIW, I am using XPHome SP2 and XPPro SP2 and IE7 on both machines. Please ... someone tell me it is not something that is isolated to my network. would having Google in Trusted sites have anything to do with it? |
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said by Graycode :Their script name contains random-looking characters that isn't consistent. One way to stop it was to block anything that tries to access their path 'www.google.com/extern_js/f/'. My web monitor showed it was sending every character entered as a URL request as you're typing into its search box. No Thanks, Google. Thats friggin crazy. |
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  Grail Knight Who Dares Wins Premium join:2003-05-31
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| reply to Mele20 If Customize Google features do not block or enhance a Google feature it is a pretty good indicator the site changed.
You should contact the dev as I suggested if anything to let him know a feature needs fixed.
As to cookies well some worry about them and some eat them and some are crazy over what they think might happen if they use them.
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| reply to Mele20 Some users don't even have the Preferences selections appearing for them yet. Another user posted this link to an alternate Google page where Google Suggest is not enabled. I don't know if it works without cookies though.
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| reply to nwrickert said by nwrickert :Just block javascript from google, and the problem should be solved without having to store google cookies. That would work but Kye-U just wrote a filter for Proxo.  Bye, bye Google Suggest. 
Anyone with Proxo wanting this filter here's the link. Again, thanks Kye-U!
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1 edit | reply to katarina Their script name contains random-looking characters that isn't consistent. One way to stop it was to block anything that tries to access their path 'www.google.com/extern_js/f/'.
My web monitor showed it was sending every character entered as a URL request as you're typing into its search box.
No Thanks, Google. |
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  nwrickert sand groper Premium,MVM join:2004-09-04 Geneva, IL | reply to Mele20 Just block javascript from google, and the problem should be solved without having to store google cookies. |
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| reply to Grail Knight Customize Google has always had this feature and if you UNcheck it (it is checked by default) then, in the past, you never got this. But you do now so I'm not sure what he can do. Although I will contact him.
As for your comment about not giving Google a cookie, Doctor Four answered that beautifully.
I've switched to Scroogle until someone writes a Proxo filter which I have already requested at Kye-U's forum. The only problem is that Sidki has stopped working on his filters so we rely now on a few folks who write a filter here or there like Kye-U but he is busy in school. I hope some of the Proxo guru's here see this and respond. -- "The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason |
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| reply to Mele20 said by Mele20 :But if Google is making this piece of garbage permanent that means one thing: Google is trying to force everyone to allow Google cookies so that preferences are set and this can be turned off. In other words, Google is declaring war on user privacy. BAD MOVE GOOGLE. I always knew Google was blowing hot air when they kept saying that they value the users privacy. Now we know that is BS. Anyone out there who can write a Proxo filter to stop this? This becomes more alarming, privacy-wise, when you consider that Google recently acquired Doubleclick, once known as the Great Satan of Internet privacy.
To paraphrase a popular meme from around 2001-2002 from a video game: Google: All Your Search Data Are Belong To Us! -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
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  Grail Knight Who Dares Wins Premium join:2003-05-31
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| reply to Mele20 quote: I have Customize Google extension and even with updating it, I am still getting that garbage. I've had it happen periodically in the past but just for a few hours.
Have you considering contacting the Customize Google Dev and asking him if he would just add the feature to prevent Google Suggest to the Options in Customize Google - Preferences Subsection?
That horrible Google providing a great search engine asking to set one little old cookie. How dare they ask for nothing for giving the user superior search results. Shame on them.  --- OT: I do not know if you have been paying attention or not but OpenBook was updated and has your resizer working and IT DOES WORK! -- "Lego Succurro Lima" |
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| reply to katarina I've been seeing this since yesterday on Firefox. I hate it. I have Customize Google extension and even with updating it, I am still getting that garbage. I've had it happen periodically in the past but just for a few hours.
I have NO preferences with Google! You have to allow Google cookies in order to set preferences. I would never allow Google to invade my privacy by allowing them a cookie so they can profile me! I have Customize Google blocking the Google Analytic cookies also and I use TrackMeNot extension running all the time which obscures my Google searches with periodic random searches.
But if Google is making this piece of garbage permanent that means one thing: Google is trying to force everyone to allow Google cookies so that preferences are set and this can be turned off. In other words, Google is declaring war on user privacy. BAD MOVE GOOGLE. I always knew Google was blowing hot air when they kept saying that they value the users privacy. Now we know that is BS.
Anyone out there who can write a Proxo filter to stop this? -- "The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason |
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| reply to DownTheShore said by DownTheShore :Google's preferences seem to have some fluidity to them. I keep Safe Search turned off, yet periodically the moderate Safe Search turns itself on. This happens to me when I clear the cookies in IE. After clearing them all Google preferences are reset to default. -- It don't matter if I get a little tired, I'll sleep when I'm dead!
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| reply to NanDog Re: Google Suggest
said by NanDog :I think we're all blessed to have this community in which to ask questions and receive answers! Hope your problems were cured, katarina! Best, NanDog! I found a Google Group that has some discussion of this "feature" being rolled out, but I don't have a Google account and don't want one, so I can't post there.
If anyone else already has a Google account and is interested in joining this "group" you might consider letting them know about the "bug" in the preferences that turns the "query suggestion" feature on even when the settings are set to "do not provide query suggestions in search box." I tried an email contact I found that was used when this was in beta, and got a boilerplate response directing me to the beta group that no longer exists.
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1 edit | reply to katarina Re: IE 7 and Google Search
I think we're all blessed to have this community in which to ask questions and receive answers!
Hope your problems were cured, katarina!
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1 edit | reply to DownTheShore Well ... I wish they would regain some stability in their settings. Their help pages state that we lose our preferences when we routinely delete cookies, which makes sense.
What doesn't make sense to me is that when I looked at my preferences they were set to *not* list query suggestions. It took saving the currently set preferences in order to make that one work properly (as Cabal suggested).
FWIW, after reading the thread that NanDog referenced, I did some more searching myself and ran across this article
»searchengineland.com/080825-201142.php
on Google "Suggest" (dated today) that says:
"More and more people should see it appear, with a full rollout expected by this Friday." |
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| reply to katarina Google's preferences seem to have some fluidity to them. I keep Safe Search turned off, yet periodically the moderate Safe Search turns itself on.  -- Patriotism is not waving a flag, it is living the ideals |
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| reply to Cabal said by Cabal :This is a Google preference. Click on Preferences and scroll down to "Query Suggestions." I've noticed this preference turning on even when the setting is "off," but re-saving preferences takes care of it. I have *never* used Google Preferences and in this case, it was already turned off. And .. you are right ... re-saving the preferences did get rid of this annoyance. Thank you!!! |
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| reply to NanDog YES!!! Thank you!!! I thought I had something seriously wrong with my PCs. I've tried to find answers on Google but I am coming up empty handed.
The only thing I have run across so far on Google is their claim that it is your browser that maintains that list in the search box ... not Google. Well ... my browser never had anything there before because I have auto complete turned off totally. It is really strange that even with my suppressing that search history that a "suggested" list is appearing ... and it is so aggravating that I don't want to use Google to search anymore. |
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| reply to katarina This is a Google preference. Click on Preferences and scroll down to "Query Suggestions." I've noticed this preference turning on even when the setting is "off," but re-saving preferences takes care of it. -- Interested in open source engine management for your Subaru? |
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