bl3s5in
join:2008-09-13
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Re: [availability] To far from the CO
Ah, sorry for not making my post clear. The extra telephone poles was a reference to Cable.The local Cable Company wanted money to extend the cable line to my house. I only mentioned it because it is so frustrating being so close to both Cable and DSL. I currently have home phone service from Verizon and I did not have to pay extra to have the line ran. I would have to be 2112 ft closer to get ADSL, are there any methods that would make that possible? Also no they're no Wireless ISPs out here. Outside of getting this ADSL to work my only options are Dial-up, staying with WildBlue(far less than optional), or getting an EV-DO card and router. Only problem with EV-DO is that I can not live on a 5 gig cap. |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
 ·Cingular Wireless
 ·Verizon Online DSL
1 edit | based on your problem, if you pay the cableco, you're much better off, as you sound like you're on the very fringe to get DSL, so your service, if any, won't be good.
My advice: Try Sprint's EV-DO. If it works out for ya, cancel within the first 30 days and return the equipment. Then, buy one of the following devices from a Sprint store/eBay upfront (ie without service):
»www.millenicom.com/mobilebroadband/BYOD.htm
Then, go to »www.millenicom.com and sign up for the Wireless internet (BYOD option). Enter the ESN/HEX to activate your newly-purchased device, along with your billing info, and you're good to go. Millenicom service is $59.99/mo, and it's unlimited, unlike Sprint, hence the reason I'm recommending it.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
a333 |
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bl3s5in
join:2008-09-13 | Bad DSL is better than 2000 MS latency on WildBlue. Sprint doesn't offer EV-DO in my area only Verizon. Will that method work with Verizon? Also the cableco wants about 3000$ to run the line, which is a little out of my budget. |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
·Cingular Wireless
·Verizon Online DSL
| No, by 'bad DSL' I mean pretty much NO connection. I mean it.. you'll be disconnected like every 5 mins, unless your line's exceptionally clean. Also, Verizon probably will refuse to even sign you up. As to EV-DO, Millenicom doesn't work with Verizon. Millenicom is a Sprint reseller, you see. They work if Sprint works. (You COULD just get Verizon EVDO, but... they're capped @ 5 Gigs) However, since you say Verizon has EV-DO in your area, there's the chance Sprint does as well. Their coverage maps are usually out of date... so give 'em a try. It's your best bet, given your current situation. Remember: if Sprint works, cancel 'em within 30 days and get Millenicom to take advantage of the unlimited service..
Cheers,
a333
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bl3s5in
join:2008-09-13
| Nah Sprint has no service out here at all. I own a Sprint 3G phone(got locked in with the contract) that gets no Sprint service at my house and is forced to roam on Verizon. Thank you for the help though, I can't believe how difficult it is to get half way decent BroadBand to rural communities in 2008. |
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tschmidt
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
 ·Hollis Hosting
·Verizon Online DSL
·Fairpoint Communic..
| reply to bl3s5in
Since Verizon said you are too far you are pretty much out of luck. There is a Range Extended version of ADSL2+ that push wire distance another few thousand feet. But Verizon is not marketing them as far as I know.
Are there any CLECs offering DSL in your area? They may be able to push distance a little more the Verizon is interested in. May want to check with State Public Utilities Commission. While DSL is unregulated they may have info on ISPs and CLECs providing service in your area.
Have you though about using ISDN? You can bond both channels for 128/128 kbps service. Adapter is automatic so you can still use it for voice. When voice line is in use speed drops to 64/64 kbps. Some ISP offer something called IDSL which is data only version that uses ISDN signalling that speed is 144/144 kbps. Being truly digital service latency is good, given the relatively low speed.
/tom |
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bl3s5in
join:2008-09-13 | I've thought about it but I've been quoted some insane prices for it. I will look into the CLECs and ISDL, thanks. |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY | reply to bl3s5in
Hmmm in that case, your only option is to just get Verizon Wireless and stick with the 5 GB cap, or get Satellite in exchange for higher caps but crappy latency.
Good luck anyway,
Cheers,
a333 |
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bl3s5in
join:2008-09-13 | It's fun being screwed. Well thanks to all who posted, I'm going to see if I can find a company who will put up a dsl loop extension or whatever it is called for my business. Any word on how many feet one will actually extend the signal? |
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Jodokast96
R.I.P Bassman442
Premium
join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ | If you think 3 grand is a lot to run cable, you're going to be picking up more than your jaw at the cost of that. Besides, it would take damn near a small towns worth of people to get that kind of equipment installed. |
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tschmidt
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
·Hollis Hosting
·Verizon Online DSL
·Fairpoint Communic..
| reply to bl3s5in
said by bl3s5in  : It's fun being screwed. How is it you are being screwed?
said by bl3s5in : I'm going to see if I can find a company who will put up a dsl loop extension or whatever it is called for my business. Any word on how many feet one will actually extend the signal? There are no loop extenders for DSL. DSL is a point-to-point link between customer's modem and DSLAM. To reduce loop length Telco's install Remote Terminals. RTs move DSLAM closer to customer and use fiber to connect back to the CO.
If this is a business may want to look at getting a T1 line. T1's are able to use repeaters to extend distance. T1'a are business class services so they are expensive. You are looking at prices in the $300-500 per month range for 1500/1500.
/tom |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ | reply to bl3s5in
Find the $3,000 for extending the cable line. Or talk to your township committee (or whatever your governing body is) and ask them if they can help get the cable company's charge lowered. |
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bl3s5in
join:2008-09-13 | How exactly could my township committee help lower the price of Cable? Also even if I had $3,000 to give them I wouldn't do it.Something just seems wrong about paying a company that kind of money to buy the right to pay them more money. |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by bl3s5in :How exactly could my township committee help lower the price of Cable? Also even if I had $3,000 to give them I wouldn't do it. Something just seems wrong about paying a company that kind of money to buy the right to pay them more money. 1. They have a franchise from your town. People start complaining about the cable service, and the town has some leverage.
2. There are standards in the franchise agreement about who is or isn't served. i.e., a certain number of houses per mile, etc. The town could check to see if the cable company is really playing by the rules. |
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