said by beerbum :

so will Comcast be reducing our bills since the equivalent service from Giganews is $7.99 per month?

hahahaha I doubt it. Comcast just takes and takes while either raising prices or restricting/dropping services..

what's next, dump the "always on" and start charging by the hour after being on-line past a certain time limit??

this really sucks, now I have to pay an extra $8 per month for a service I want and use?

absolute bullshit..

said by mardyron :

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Well technically the price you pay is for access to the internet. Anything else (email,usenet,free anti-virus) are just added features.

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that is plain crap. It is a package deal. If you read their site it even pushes the AMOUNT of storage for email & webspace for a website. Including software for website creation. So it IS PART OF THE PRICE.

But we all know they wont issue credits. Damn when you have an outage & 1 department tells you they will credit you have to follow up & force it or else they will rip you off. That goes for the TV/ISP/PHONE service. Not just 1 but all. I know different areas = different quality of service.

said by Goober :

I think that a lot of this disagreement is age-based.

For me, I started when Internet access meant dial up with nothing else. I then added usenet on my own. Next, I went to DSL. Internet only and I added my own Usenet. Next, I went to WOW cable. At the time, it was internet only. I added my own Usenet. I can't quite remember with Comcast, but I think it was 1GB when they inititally came to town here. I still had my own Usenet.

Taking away Usenet from someone that's been at it as long as I have is a non-issue. For the younger ones, I suppose it feels like something is being taken away.

said by Goober :

I think that a lot of this disagreement is age-based.

For me, I started when Internet access meant dial up with nothing else.

said by chesler :

Dadkins: yes, NNTP and HTTP are protocols. Losing the source of the content that went into the NNTP pipe is more like losing Rhapsody or the SciFi channel.

said by chesler :

(Hmm, I wonder if us old-farts who like Usenet also have an unusually high preference for analog TV? On a 19" lo-def set channel-lag is a bigger deal than extreme picture quality.)

said by beerbum :

so will Comcast be reducing our bills since the equivalent service from Giganews is $7.99 per month?

said by CableTool :

Did your rate increase $7.99 when newsgroup access was added to accounts?

I've been a Comcast HSI subscriber for eight years, and newsgroups have been a part of the package Comcast has marketed that whole time.

Also when did Comcast raise CHSI prices?

I'm not sure how that's relevant, since we're talking about reduction in services without a commiserate reduction in price.

Now you have to pay $8.00 a month for service you were previously getting for free. Chances are you will not and many will not.

said by Welcome to Post :

Correction: nothing is free from a for-profit company. Newsgroups have been part of the internet package that Comcast markets. We are now facing a reduction in that package.

said by Rob :

So when Comcast went from 6/384 to 6/1 and 8/768 to 8/2, did your Internet rate go up? After all, nothing is free. So all of our rates must have gone up with the increase in speed.

said by quetwo :

Yes. About the same time my cap was lifted from 6/384 to 6/1, there was a price increase of about $5. While most people didn't have the timing as close as we did, we had our yearly "we need more money"-a-thon the same time they did the slight bump in upload speeds.

said by quetwo :

Yes. About the same time my cap was lifted from 6/384 to 6/1, there was a price increase of about $5. While most people didn't have the timing as close as we did, we had our yearly "we need more money"-a-thon the same time they did the slight bump in upload speeds.

said by NormanS :

So your local franchise agency artificially forced Comcast to offer the service at a lower price than they offered it elsewhere.

Government controlled prices are not "normal", and prices rising to the market level, when the government relinquishes controls, does not a "price hike" make.

said by funchords :

This "artificial"-ness runs both ways when there are only 0, 1, or 2 choices for any particular address. It takes a market to create market forces.

said by espaeth :

Pricing isn't set on a per address basis; it's based on the service area your address would reside in. As long as there is competition within your service area (which there almost always is), there are at least 2 services to compete on price.

said by funchords :

ObTopic -- both Comcast and Verizon caved in to Cuomo, Verizon a bit differently -- »News: Verizon KILLING their News Server!!!

said by Welcome to Post :

Correction: nothing is free from a for-profit company. Newsgroups have been part of the internet package that Comcast markets. We are now facing a reduction in that package.

said by CableTool :

When News groups were added originally there was no price increase. So removing it would not merit a price reduction.

said by tcope :

So Comcast offered Internet service without Usenet when they first started? Also, your statement is flawed in that the cost to deliver service has become less expensive. Granted, service has increased as well. But let's look at reality for a moment... when Usenet started it too very little resources. It's resources have increased and so has the cost of Internet access. You really think Comcast has never increased it's price due to the resources of Usenet?

said by beerbum :

You know what is really sad? The actual costs involved to run usenet - minus the binary groups - are minimal..

A couple quad core computers and one or two TB for storage could handle it - with a greater than 30 day retention - again, minus the binary groups.

said by NormanS :

Then what happened to all of the free NNTP providers? Why did Supernews sell out to Giganews?

said by beerbum :

as of now, the daily total traffic on usenet is in the neighborhood of 14-17 gig per day.. filter out the binaries and most of us here have hardware that could handle the traffic..

said by CableTool :

When News groups were added originally there was no price increase. So removing it would not merit a price reduction.

said by mogulman :

AT&T used to have their own news servers. Then they moved it to giganews. If they are going to remove this function of the internet, they should reduce the price they are charging.

said by mogulman :

AT&T used to have their own news servers. Then they moved it to giganews. If they are going to remove this function of the internet, they should reduce the price they are charging.

said by CableTool :

When News groups were added originally there was no price increase. So removing it would not merit a price reduction.

said by CableTool :

When News groups were added originally there was no price increase. So removing it would not merit a price reduction.

said by CableTool :

Did your rate increase $7.99 when newsgroup access was added to accounts?
"hahahaha I doubt it."

said by CableTool :

Did your rate increase $7.99 when newsgroup access was added to accounts?
"hahahaha I doubt it."

Also when did Comcast raise CHSI prices?

Now you have to pay $8.00 a month for service you were previously getting for free. Chances are you will not and many will not.

said by CableTool :

Did your rate increase $7.99 when newsgroup access was added to accounts?
"hahahaha I doubt it."

said by beerbum :

so will Comcast be reducing our bills since the equivalent service from Giganews is $7.99 per month?

hahahaha I doubt it.