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Cabal
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reply to quetwo
Re: The Comcast Newsgroups Service Discontinued

said by quetwo See Profile :

said by Rob See Profile :

So when Comcast went from 6/384 to 6/1 and 8/768 to 8/2, did your Internet rate go up? After all, nothing is free. So all of our rates must have gone up with the increase in speed.
Yes. About the same time my cap was lifted from 6/384 to 6/1, there was a price increase of about $5. While most people didn't have the timing as close as we did, we had our yearly "we need more money"-a-thon the same time they did the slight bump in upload speeds.
Can post a scan of your bill where bundled (std-level) Internet is more than $42.95? Mine hasn't changed since 2002.
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I won't post a copy of my bill (it's been a year and a half since the increase).

Our municipality had the rate capped at 37.99 until 6/07. After that time, it went up $5 to the new rate of 42.95. No explaniation other than a renew of the municipality agreement.

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So your local franchise agency artificially forced Comcast to offer the service at a lower price than they offered it elsewhere. Then Comcast was able to convince them that it was unfair to force them to offer service "at cost"; probably offered to take their toys to other markets, and leave them with dead coax on the poles. So the franchise agency chose to allow Comcast to charge you what they already charged everybody else.

Government controlled prices are not "normal", and prices rising to the market level, when the government relinquishes controls, does not a "price hike" make.
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said by NormanS See Profile :

So your local franchise agency artificially forced Comcast to offer the service at a lower price than they offered it elsewhere.

Government controlled prices are not "normal", and prices rising to the market level, when the government relinquishes controls, does not a "price hike" make.
This "artificial"-ness runs both ways when there are only 0, 1, or 2 choices for any particular address. It takes a market to create market forces.
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said by funchords See Profile :

This "artificial"-ness runs both ways when there are only 0, 1, or 2 choices for any particular address. It takes a market to create market forces.
Pricing isn't set on a per address basis; it's based on the service area your address would reside in. As long as there is competition within your service area (which there almost always is), there are at least 2 services to compete on price.


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said by espaeth See Profile :

Pricing isn't set on a per address basis; it's based on the service area your address would reside in. As long as there is competition within your service area (which there almost always is), there are at least 2 services to compete on price.
That's still pretty far from a market, but your point is valid. It's also true the $42.95 is worth less now than it was 4 years ago -- so the price has dropped somewhat. ObTopic -- both Comcast and Verizon caved in to Cuomo, Verizon a bit differently -- »News: Verizon KILLING their News Server!!!
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said by funchords See Profile :

ObTopic -- both Comcast and Verizon caved in to Cuomo, Verizon a bit differently -- »News: Verizon KILLING their News Server!!!
As did AT&T, which removed the entire 'alt.binaries.*' hierarchy from their NNTP servers.

Oddly, Cuomo brags that he "forced" AOL to "toe the line", as well; yet AOL had already discontinued NNTP service a couple of years before he forced them to. Does he have a supply of 'thiotimoline' stashed somewhere?
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