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So, you know those Yahoo accounts Sarah Palin was using to keep her official business safe from subpoenas? Turns out they're not so safe after all. Palin's Yahoo accounts (gov.palin@yahoo.com and gov.sarah@yahoo.com) were successfully hacked last night and you can see the screengrabs here. Since then, the accounts have been deleted, which could be considered destruction of evidence if a court chose to pursue it.
The evidence, at first glance, looks pretty solid that the accounts were authentic. Photos of Palin's family were pulled from e-mails, plus a "sent" e-mail to aide Amy McCorkell was confirmed by a call to McCorkell herself, reports Wired.
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The group known as Anonymous, which earlier took on Scientology, has published screenshots of e-mail messages and images that it says came from a private e-mail account belonging to Governor Sarah Palin at gov.palin@yahoo.com. The data has been published by WikiLeaks.
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Yorba Linda, CA | Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked Also known as the "Tina Fey Full Employment Act of 2008"
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| Ah, the double-edged sword - use the non-governmental account to deliberately "hide" official bizness, but get you account haxored like a noob. I guess she's as much an expert on IT security as she is in foreign affairs... | |
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1 edit | Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked Love the LolPalinz "OH HAI" in that image...
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| said by PTS  :Ah, the double-edged sword - use the non-governmental account to deliberately "hide" official bizness, but get you account haxored like a noob. I guess she's as much an expert on IT security as she is in foreign affairs... Balderdash. What evidence do you have that:
A) official business was being conducted from this Yahoo account and
B) That she was trying to cover-up such business.
FACT: You're making this up. The e-mails released have nothing at all to do with official government business. Secondly, there is no law against public officials having private e-mail accounts.
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| And you KNOW that she used it to hide official business, right? Has there been ANY such allegation? No there hasn't. If such an allegation comes forward, then fine, investigate. But no one has the right to go trolling through someone else's private e-mail for no reason. If the cops came into your house with no warrant, and no suspicion of any wrong-doing, they'd be violating your rights. This is exactly the same thing. This argument that it's wrong to use private e-mail in that way is an obfuscation, and nothing more. No wrongdoing has been alleged, and as such, no one has the right to go through her e-mail like this.
I find the lack of outrage at the act, and the displacement of the argument back at Palin for allegedly doing something wrong when no one has made any such accusation, just horrible. What these perps did is illegal. It's a violation of Alaska state law (punishable by up to 2 years) AND a violation of federal law (up to 5 years). These clowns should be found, prosecuted, and put in jail. Palin's ideology should have NO bearing on this AT ALL. You disagree with her? Fine. But that doesn't in any way make what happened here ok by any stretch of the imagination. The outrage should be the same no matter if it happened to Obama or to Palin. | |
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by JPL :And you KNOW that she used it to hide official business, right? Has there been ANY such allegation? No there hasn't. If such an allegation comes forward, then fine, investigate. But no one has the right to go trolling through someone else's private e-mail for no reason. If the cops came into your house with no warrant, and no suspicion of any wrong-doing, they'd be violating your rights. This is exactly the same thing. This argument that it's wrong to use private e-mail in that way is an obfuscation, and nothing more. No wrongdoing has been alleged, and as such, no one has the right to go through her e-mail like this. I find the lack of outrage at the act, and the displacement of the argument back at Palin for allegedly doing something wrong when no one has made any such accusation, just horrible. What these perps did is illegal. It's a violation of Alaska state law (punishable by up to 2 years) AND a violation of federal law (up to 5 years). These clowns should be found, prosecuted, and put in jail. Palin's ideology should have NO bearing on this AT ALL. You disagree with her? Fine. But that doesn't in any way make what happened here ok by any stretch of the imagination. The outrage should be the same no matter if it happened to Obama or to Palin. Actually there HAS been allegations and controversy over usage of the accounts to hide certain things from the Freedom of Information Act.
According to laws she and her party support such a suspicion is enough for a no knock warrant and countless invasions of privacy. Perhaps this invasion of her privacy will wake her up to those ridiculous laws. | |
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| said by JPL :And you KNOW that she used it to hide official business, right? Has there been ANY such allegation? No there hasn't. If such an allegation comes forward, then fine, investigate. ... What these perps did is illegal. It's a violation of Alaska state law (punishable by up to 2 years) AND a violation of federal law (up to 5 years). There is a pending lawsuit on behalf of several Republican state legislators in Alaska seeking access to the Yahoo accounts and alleging that just such a thing happened. Palin's lawyers have been fighting the subpeona for months.
Incidentally, no part of this incident took place in Alaska; and possibly no part crossed state lines (making it difficult to bring Federal charges based on the way the particular laws arre written).
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| said by Mother Jones : quote:
. . Since then, the accounts have been deleted, which could be considered destruction of evidence if a court chose to pursue it.
It's not 'destruction of evidence' if the information was simply moved to a new account.
If someone's account had been hacked, would that someone just continue to use it anyway?
Some would, I suppose-- but I'll give Palin a tad more credit than that.
Just a point of info.
Whether or not that's in fact what she's done, I of course wouldn't know. | |
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Yorba Linda, CA | Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked How does she style herself as an internet expert? | |
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by Steve :How does she style herself as an internet expert? By thinking she can get away with using a Yahoo account for official biz. Illegal and stupid.
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by Its a Secret :[By thinking she can get away with using a Yahoo account for official biz. Illegal and stupid. Thank you for telling us that you don't expect to be taken seriously; her actions don't convey any kind of self-styled internet expertise, so this is just partisan nonsense.
The most telling thing about this episode is that there's not any real "dirt". How many of us could have our private emails revealed to the nation without telling everybody much more about ourselves than we'd be comfortable with.
I assume that everybody involved in high-level politics - Gov. Palin and Senators McCain, Obama, and Biden, all say things in private that would be really damaging if brought to light.
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by Steve : ... so this is just partisan nonsense. Sorry Steve, but I live in Canada and can't vote in the US, I have zero to gain. Insofar as my being taken seriously, I have to laugh at that. It WAS stupid and is illegal. but if you're cracking at me for the 'self-styled' remark, well, keep hitting it.
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| said by Steve :said by Its a Secret :[By thinking she can get away with using a Yahoo account for official biz. Illegal and stupid. Thank you for telling us that you don't expect to be taken seriously; her actions don't convey any kind of self-styled internet expertise, so this is just partisan nonsense. The most telling thing about this episode is that there's not any real "dirt". How many of us could have our private emails revealed to the nation without telling everybody much more about ourselves than we'd be comfortable with. Yup, yup.
And how many of us are a US state Governor now running for VP?
Give it a break. Anyone believing anything about this or troopergate needs desperately to buy my bridge to nowhere for pennies on the dollar 
This is simply too convenient to pass any smell test known to people maintaining a modicum of common sense.
palin.gov@yahoo.com + official state business / hacked = pure unwiped ass.
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by Titus Pullo :Anyone believing anything about this or troopergate needs desperately to buy my bridge to nowhere for pennies on the dollar This is simply too convenient to pass any smell test known to people maintaining a modicum of common sense. palin.gov@yahoo.com + official state business / hacked = pure unwiped ass. -- Interested readers can follow the developing 'Troopergate' coverage from the Anchorage Daily News:
Campaign fields Palin questions September 18th, 2008
MCCAIN STEPS IN: Questions about her now go to national operatives.
GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is effectively turning over questions about her record as Alaska's governor to John McCain's political campaign, part of an ambitious Republican strategy to limit any embarrassing disclosures and carefully shape her image for voters in the rest of the country.
Inquiry into Monegan dismissal heats up September 18th, 2008
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked Of course. It's either stinking, rotten political skullduggery or subterfuge. Either way, the public will never know. Caribou Barbie walks away and is still one heartbeat from leading the nation. Someone shoot me. I take that back ... someone probably would!
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| said by Steve :..... her actions don't convey any kind of self-styled internet expertise, ..... Agreed, and even if it did, I am not sure it really matters. Having ones Yahoo or Gmail account compromised, appears to cut across all levels of security and technical expertise. Admittedly, the skill level to pull it off is a variable:
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13th August 2008
On Sunday morning, security consultant Alan Shimel woke to discover that his personal blog, which is frequented by countless peers and reporters, was pointing to a website featuring explicit gay porn. Equally disturbing, he found someone had cracked open his Yahoo! Mail account and aired sensitive documents he filed with the Internal Revenue Service.
Oh, and while the miscreants were at it, they sent crude pornographic images to parents on the Little League baseball team Shimel coached.
The chief strategy officer for security firm StillSecure, Shimel is one of three high-profile researchers in the security world known to have been attacked by unknown criminals over the past week. A personal Gmail account belonging to Petko D. Petkov, of the GNUCitizen ethical hacking collective, was ransacked and 2GB of its contents made public. And logs believed to come from the home blog of Security-Protocols.com researcher Tom Ferris have also been exposed.
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"Personally, I don't keep any personal email on any webserver," said Jeremiah Grossman, CTO of White Hat Security and the only non-victim security researcher willing to be named in this story.
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not in ohio | Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked Surely the point to be made is that, if you keep stuff on (say) Yahoo's web server, then it is largely irrelevant how good your grasp of security might be -- it's how good Yahoo's grasp of security might be. | |
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by dave :Surely the point to be made is that, if you keep stuff on (say) Yahoo's web server, then it is largely irrelevant how good your grasp of security might be -- it's how good Yahoo's grasp of security might be. Not totally.
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by SnowyOne :Weak passwords & weak password reset answers are in the users domain. Agreed on the passwords.
Not agreed on the password-reset answers. You have two choices when asked for your mother's maiden name (etc.)
1) Tell the truth
2) Lie
The truth is easier to remember. You can lie and give a 'strong' answer. But then you have to remember it. So, you're in the position of having to remember a second password in case you forget your first password. How stupid is that?
The presentation certainly encourages users to tell the truth, and the truth is a bad solution. The problem here is the very existence of password reset answers. It's the equivalent to hiding the key to the bank vault underneath the welcome mat. | |
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
I am surprised this thread is still going. *Yawn*
Lesson: Don't use Yahoo or Gmail for sensitive e-mail. If you have to for some reason, encrypt your e-mail with something like PGP, and make your contacts do the same.
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by supergirl :Ms. Palin is under Secret Service Protection and Alaska law even has it as a crime. It just shows exactly how stupid these people are to hack a Veep Candidate. Are you serious? This is what she gets for refusing to release her emails to the Alaskan government for review per her "I can fire anyone I want when I'm in office" incident. What goes around comes around.
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked supergirl, I could be wrong but I tend to disagree with the two things you said:
1. Wikileaks being taken down
It's actually a fairly common thing for it to be down during times like this and yet it always pops right back up when things calm down. It's hosted by PRQ in Sweden which also hosts The Pirate Bay. I could be mistaken but it would take A LOT for it to actually get taken down. (At least more than the FBI whining about it, thats for sure) Just look at how long people have been trying to get TPB taken offline and yet it remains active.
2. It hasn't been confirmed whether the hacker has been arrested or not nor do we know if he was actually smart enough to cover himself. You would think with something like this he would be but who knows. | |
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked Although I have a Yahoo mail account, I download all mail and delete it on the server automatically. I also go to the web interface and erase the spam that is collected. However, I know that some people live out of their webmail accounts and don't want to delete all the mail on the server. It's possible to use a complex password, but then you have to be able to remember and type in that complex password each time. That part isn't so easy, but if you save the login to automate the process, that is another security issue. | |
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by rcdailey :Although I have a Yahoo mail account, I download all mail and delete it on the server automatically. I also go to the web interface and erase the spam that is collected. However, I know that some people live out of their webmail accounts and don't want to delete all the mail on the server. It's possible to use a complex password, but then you have to be able to remember and type in that complex password each time. That part isn't so easy, but if you save the login to automate the process, that is another security issue. The thing that is surprising to me is how high-level officials (like VP candidates) are not briefed on security issues such as this, whether it be through campaign people or law-enforcement.
"Debacles" like this could be avoided with very simple steps. All one has to do is encrypt their e-mails via PGP or some such public key cipher.
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| said by SGR :supergirl, I could be wrong but I tend to disagree with the two things you said: 1. Wikileaks being taken down It's actually a fairly common thing for it to be down during times like this and yet it always pops right back up when things calm down. It's hosted by PRQ in Sweden which also hosts The Pirate Bay. I could be mistaken but it would take A LOT for it to actually get taken down. (At least more than the FBI whining about it, thats for sure) Just look at how long people have been trying to get TPB taken offline and yet it remains active. 2. It hasn't been confirmed whether the hacker has been arrested or not nor do we know if he was actually smart enough to cover himself. You would think with something like this he would be but who knows. Wikileaks DNS has been deleted.
The hacker's email addy is rubico10@yahoo.com. I said it was my understanding he's been busted. His fellow hacker turned him in.
See »michellemalkin.com/2008/09/17/th···hacking/ for Rubico10's posts. It is hilarious. Now he is sitting scared in the dark waiting for the Feds or is already been busted.
Yahoo deleted the accounts by the way. They still have them but not available to anyone but Yahoo personnel, and, the Feds---FBI and Secret Service.
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hackedsaid by supergirl : Wikileaks DNS has been deleted.
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by Steve :said by supergirl : Wikileaks DNS has been deleted. [code] $ rootns wikileaks.org wikileaks.org: ns2.everydns.net ns3.everydns.net ns4.everydns.net $ dig +short @ns2.everydns.net wikileaks.org soa ns2.everydns.net. hostmaster.wikileaks.org. 1207865302 16384 2048 1048576 2560 $ dig +short @ns3.everydns.net wikileaks.org soa ns2.everydns.net. hostmaster.wikileaks.org. 1207865302 16384 2048 1048576 2560 $ dig +short @ns4.everydns.net wikileaks.org soa ns2.everydns.net. hostmaster.wikileaks.org. 1207865302 16384 2048 1048576 2560 [/code] ? ? ? Facts are pesky things.
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by nwrickert :Wikileaks site has been closed. Apparently, ICANN has deleted it's DNS. The site is down. However DNS is still working. I am still getting an IP address. The domain registration does not appear to have been cancelled. Michelle Malkin isn't exactly the wisest place to gather news about anything.
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| said by supergirl :said by jonnyz :said by supergirl :Ms. Palin is under Secret Service Protection and Alaska law even has it as a crime. It just shows exactly how stupid these people are to hack a Veep Candidate. Are you serious? This is what she gets for refusing to release her emails to the Alaskan government for review per her "I can fire anyone I want when I'm in office" incident. What goes around comes around. Hacking is illegal. Wikileaks site has been closed. Apparently, ICANN has deleted it's DNS. I can't verify it but my understanding is the hacker has been arrested and Wikileaks is now facing criminal charges. The Secret Service and FBI cracked down hard. See » michellemalkin.com/2008/09/17/th···hacking/ to see how her accounts were hacked. The hacker's name is "rubico10" @yahoo.com. My understanding again is he has been arrested. Computer Fraud & Abuse Act and other crimes. The idiot even posted Ms. Palin's 17 year old daughter's phone number and called it. Idiot! This is sad. I like the Wikileaks site and what they do. However, I cannot say I feel sorry for them in this instance. They knew that they would be staring down the barrel of a shotgun if they were caught cooperating with cyber criminals in order to "out" a politicians private correspondence. I say good riddance to them.
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| said by jonnyz :said by supergirl :Ms. Palin is under Secret Service Protection and Alaska law even has it as a crime. It just shows exactly how stupid these people are to hack a Veep Candidate. Are you serious? This is what she gets for refusing to release her emails to the Alaskan government for review per her "I can fire anyone I want when I'm in office" incident. What goes around comes around. Another completely fabricated statement. What evidence do you have that she has said "I can fire anyone at any time." What evidence do you have that she abused her authority by asking a subordinate to fire a state trooper who tasered a 10 year old nephew?
C'mon, all you guys make claims but cannot back up a SINGLE one of them with FACTS. | |
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I think we have a new Dawrin Award candidate, if there is a bright side to the whole mess.
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by insomniac84 :It sucks for that guy. I wonder if he's a self-styled internet expert | |
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by supergirl :They already know who he is. His fellow hacker turned him in. Where are you confirming this at? His name, and his email address are two very different things. | |
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| said by Doctor Four :The /b/tards strike again! (No, and I do not visit 4chan's boards, and never will). But I must admit some of the memes that have come from there are downright hilarious. But this time one of them may have gone too far. Even though he is anonymous, the FBI and Secret Service will eventually catch up with him. And hopefully fry his *** off for doing it. It really doesn't matter who he did it to, what the freak did was illegal, and should be punished.
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| I think he got caught by worse. BillO. He wants everyone on the webpage arrested and was really ripping into the source webpage he would not name. Saying it was disgusting and the type of webpage exploiting free speech. Kinda funny.
I just hope the Yahoo ToS makes this an issue between the "hacker" and yahoo. And not between rich republicans looking for news distractions and the "hacker". | |
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Geneva, IL | Revealing that she is using Yahoo, and might be doing it to evade subpoenas is one thing. Actually stealing and publishing the email goes way over the line.
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| While this does not involve the State of Missouri, Missouri state "Sunshine Law" (open records act) includes not only "official" email accounts (i.e. governor@mo.gov), but also any official communications made via private email accounts (such as mo.bigcheese@yahoo.com).
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amysheehan
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| Just for my own background info - what are the major ISP's that would be available for the Palin's home use ?
Or for email use on a blackberry for example ?
TIA
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coxta
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| I've Goggled this a bit and I haven't found an authoritative answer: what is the crime for hacking a Yahoo email account and posting the contents? Since it's not a government account, it wouldn't be protected at that level. Yahoo privacy just maintains that it won't sell your information, but nothing that I could find about what would happen to someone who hacked an account.
When I ask for authoritative answers, I mean what it the law not everyone's opinion. This is about all I've come up with, and it's not very clear:
Electronic Communications Privacy Act
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Dude111
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The hacker's email addy is rubico10@yahoo.com. I said it was my understanding he's been busted. His fellow hacker turned him in.
He is very brave!!
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Link Logger
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Calgary, AB
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| OK back to the thread. Why shouldn't Sarah have a Yahoo account, I mean besides having a so called public life shouldn't she be entitled to a private life as well and have a Yahoo account or Facebook or whatever and hacking an account no matter who's account it is, is simply illegal. Now given that she is in the public eye, one would think that someone should help her understand how to keep the two separate.
I mean with all the money that someone like Britney Spears has, don't you think hiring someone to make sure she was wearing all the required articles of clothing could have saved her some embarrassment and wouldn't that be worth their salary (they would have been majorly busy but could have helped saved Britney from herself)? Perhaps political parties should be doing somewhat the same but hopefully covering off more advanced topics like private email accounts etc.
I mean in Canada one party had to inform some of their guys that making videos of a bird crapping on an opponent wasn't such a good idea. Someone to pass along guidelines could certainly be helpful.
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Johnson City, TN | How was it "hacked"? I'm sure Yahoo has more security than this.
Likely keylogged or bruteforced or heck even guessed. Palin might have used "password1" as her password =P | |
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| I'm tired of people calling this kid a "Hacker". All he did was use the password recovery tool. Honestly, since when is that illegal? Maybe if it was an actual govt account, maybe, but not a personal Yahoo account. I really think they're blowing this out of proportion on purpose. | |
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Link Logger
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| Re: Sarah Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked said by coul :
I'm tired of people calling this kid a "Hacker". All he did was use the password recovery tool. Honestly, since when is that illegal? Maybe if it was an actual govt account, maybe, but not a personal Yahoo account. I really think they're blowing this out of proportion on purpose.
The issue is it wasn't his 'personal' account, hence what he did was illegal. Bumping locks is easy, but is it OK if I bump the lock to gain access your personal home? Personal still means private so if someone takes a deliberate action to violate that privacy then it is or should be illegal.
I would agree this is getting blown out of proportion as really how many Yahoo accounts are broking into everyday, this one just happens to belong to someone very much in the public eye at the moment, but it is still illegal.
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