discoVOLANTE
join:2004-02-26
Austin, TX
| newbie needs a little direction
learning (x)html and css can be a bit overbearing at first. seems there are too many ways to in fact write css. embed into html, its own file, etc.
long story short - how much (x)html do you need to know to actually start diving into harder coding and more serious development? it just seems so far css is very expandable and the code i have read is very very basic html.
thanks for all the help, i just want to hear from an webmaster with the knowledge to point me in the right way...
any training videos are much appreciated as well.
thanks
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TearAbite
join:2001-07-25
Rancho Cucamonga, CA | what exactly to you want to do?
Create new, and exiting things on the web
or
Just create/run a website?
I'm a webmaster of a very popular site/forum and i know about squat of CSS and hardly more than the basics of HTML .. |
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discoVOLANTE
join:2004-02-26
Austin, TX
| create new, edit existing, and also create and run a website.
i feel as if i shouldnt waste a lot of initial energy on (x)html - im trying to accelerate my learning and start diving into paying projects.
what language are you proficient with then? |
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TearAbite
join:2001-07-25
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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| said by discoVOLANTE  :what language are you proficient with then? ENGLISH - and i struggle with that!
I use a CMS (Drupal .. »Drupal.org) - so all the hard stuff is done for me.. i've been using it for about 2.5 years, so i've picked up enough CSS, HTML, and PHP to make my own modifications, but i dont need to do that very often. |
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johnnyboyct
join:2003-06-11
Newington, CT
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For videos lynda.com is great. piratebay.org may also be a good start to get you a taste of the different companies styles, theres a few. (just watch 30 secs then delete  )
Start with xhtml and css, then javascript. After that start with a server side language like PHP.
I just had a conversation yesterday as I helped solve a problem with our ERP software about how Im "Just a web developer". Most people dont understand how its more then HTML after they took a frontpage class or something. It takes A LOT of hard work, but its worth it in the long run when you get a paycheck 
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Connecticut Web Design and Development |
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usa2k
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join:2003-01-26
Canton, MI
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3 edits |  reply to discoVOLANTE
Re: newbie needs a little direction
PHP is a good beginning IMO.
I got my best start at ed2go.com taking an intro course in PHP.
That PHP teacher seems to be able to answer any problem from the course or from the untamed WWW. He teaches a bit of HTML, CSS, PHP, and SQL.
That is my two cents!
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Jim, VoIP since 12/2002, VOIPo 2/7/2007
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stevephl
join:2000-11-27
Colorado Springs, CO | I looked at the ed2go.com website and the pricing which seems pretty attractive. I didn't see any mention of text books so my question is are text books used or is all lesson material presented online? Thanks
Steve |
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usa2k
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| The lessons are usually about 8 to 23 pages each. I just print them and put them in a binder to look back at. There have been no text books in the classes I've taken. Her is the list of classes I have taken.
The intro PHP and Intermediate PHP were the ones I got the most from.
Intermediate PHP and MySQL
Ended July 11, 2008
Introduction to Java Programming
Ended April 11, 2008
Introduction to SQL
Ended March 07, 2008
Introduction to Microsoft Access 2003
Ended January 04, 2008
Introduction to CSS and XHTML
Ended December 07, 2007
Achieving Top Search Engine Positions
Ended November 09, 2007
Introduction to PHP and MySQL
Ended September 07, 2007
The classes are always 12 lessons. They start in the middle of each month. Every Wednesday and Friday with two weeks to complete. There are quizzes you need to do and a final exam - all multiple choice.
In the PHP classes, I would get way behind because I would be applying what I learn beyond the course criteria, and then work hard to catch up! I put more effort in PHP because it just felt synergistic. An accredited school can be a middleman, or you can sign up direct. I like direct, but it costs a bit more and some classes have credit value if you use a brick&mortar school.
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stevephl
join:2000-11-27
Colorado Springs, CO | Thanks for the info sounds great
Steve |
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usa2k
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Canton, MI
clubs: | The teacher of PHP is going to have a Ruby on Rails course soon also. Richard Blum has written many books too. I was getting good advice on Ruby from him before my last PHP course finished. |
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