keozu
join:2003-02-01
Virgie, KY | voip?
what could this do to voip? |
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jjoshua
Premium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Comcast
| said by keozu  :what could this do to voip? I suspect that it would not be good for audio quality. |
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baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI
·Comcast
 ·magicjack.com
 ·Verizon Wireless B..
| reply to keozu
Yay karl, another blunder
Good job Karl, another Comcast lie. Why doont you look at the trend of comcast's stock since the throttling was uncovered...it has gone UP (barring the full market meltdown this week).
We all know you will report nothing but negative news about Comcast, but please, no lies.
And BTW, people that use more than 250 gigs a month are piraters anyways, and I am glad to see ISPs getting involved in young males using 80% of their bandwidth so they can download bootleg copies of ironman. |
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ztmike
Mark for moderation
Premium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN
·Comcast
1 edit | said by baineschile :And BTW, people that use more than 250 gigs a month are piraters anyways, and I am glad to see ISPs getting involved in young males using 80% of their bandwidth so they can download bootleg copies of ironman. You seriously think people use all that bandwidth for illegal ways? There is so much stuff out there that IS LEGAL that will no longer be possible because Comcast can't just keep their current formula and then upgrade their system with D3..that would make to much sense for Comcast.
I guess they would rather get their healthy profits and video walls instead of screwing over their internet users. 
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baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI
·Comcast
·magicjack.com
·Verizon Wireless B..
| I will concede that its not 100%, but you must agree that it is a significant portion. Look up ANY legitamate torrent site and see what the top download of the week are.
Even with unbox and streaming netflix, xbox live and general web surfing, one would still have to watch 50+ movies per month to hit 250 gigs. |
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swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
Premium
join:2003-06-13
NH
clubs: 
·Skype
·Verizon Wireless B..
·Comcast
| reply to jjoshua
Re: voip?
time to revert to the days of dialup and one phone line. No longer can you talk on the phone while surfing the web (or downloading content). Talking on the phone then a family member starts watching videos on youtube?... then your voip phone goes down.
This is actually a concern I didn't think of... I use skype a lot and I really do not want crappy connection because after 15mins I am going to be throttled. |
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Cjaiceman
Premium,MVM
join:2004-10-12
Parker, CO
·Comcast Workplace
·Comcast
| said by swhitney2003 :This is actually a concern I didn't think of... I use skype a lot and I really do not want crappy connection because after 15mins I am going to be throttled. Unless your VOIP is using 70% (4.6Mbits/sec)of your connection you won't be throttled. VOIP uses very little data, but the latency is what counts. This is true of listening to music and everything like that.
What the throttling accounts to is if your downloading something larger than about 740MB, then you might be throttled. If your downloading something smaller than that then you won't be using your connection long enough to hit the 15 minute mark. And, on top of that, this will really only impact you when there is congestion on the node, if your node is not horribly oversold you won't see this on your connection. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
 ·AT&T Southeast
| reply to baineschile
Re: Yay karl, another blunder
said by baineschile :Good job Karl, another Comcast lie. Why doont you look at the trend of comcast's stock since the throttling was uncovered... As annoying as I find Karl's biased rants, he statement about stock price was made towards Sandvine, not Comcast. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to swhitney2003
Re: voip?
You might want to come in side so the sky does not hit you on the head when it falls. |
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baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | reply to openbox9
Re: Yay karl, another blunder
Suppose it could be read like that, i just had assumed it was another anti-comcast rant |
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pspcrazy
Anime Freak
join:2008-02-06
San Diego, CA
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to baineschile
Since when did ztmike on his post every mention the word torrent? You seem to think the majority of congestion is caused by torrents lol. The majority of congestion is now caused by video services like netflix, youtube, veoh, itunes, all you can download music services, and streaming sites.
Then again it does seem like you have some stake in comcast as you never give any one anti comcast some slack. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to baineschile
Well, obviously it is an anti-Comcast rant, but I would expect nothing less from Karl. I still believe he was discussing Sandvine when he mentioned the stock price though. |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state
 ·Dish Network
·Verizon Online DSL
·FrontierNet Intern..
| reply to keozu
Re: voip?
Absolutely nothing. At most VoIP only requires 192kbps worth of upload and download to have the best call quality. With this new system those in a congested area will at least be able to take a break from Latency spikes on their VoIP until Comcast does DOCSIS 3.0 |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to openbox9
The new Comcast fee
Comcast-"In order to prevent further decline of our stock, we've announced the new 'Comcast Stock Devaluation Recovery Fee'. What this entails is the absolute cessation of all network upgrades, and the implementation of our recession contingency where we cap your Internet usage. Its you the consumer that's at fault. How do you the consumer expect Comcast to oversell our networks if you the consumer actually use them. It's a shame that you the consumer actually thought that we here at Comcast meant 'unlimited'. Any further actions on the part of the consumer may force us to curb your cable tv and VOD use. We thank you for your time....and oh...by the way, our rates will increase 4% in the next quarter!"
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The "Lifetime" channel is responsible for 83% of all divorces...Robert Ginty |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to pspcrazy
Re: Yay karl, another blunder
said by pspcrazy : The majority of congestion is now caused by video services like netflix, youtube, veoh, itunes, all you can download music services, and streaming sites. No it isn't. It's been said before the majority of bandwidth consumption is from P2P services. |
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lordofwhee
join:2007-10-21
Everett, WA | A year ago, yes, but in the last few months streaming video has far surpassed torrents as the largest use of bandwidth. |
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swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
Premium
join:2003-06-13
NH
clubs:
·Skype
·Verizon Wireless B..
·Comcast
| reply to Cjaiceman
Re: voip?
said by Cjaiceman :said by swhitney2003 :This is actually a concern I didn't think of... I use skype a lot and I really do not want crappy connection because after 15mins I am going to be throttled. Unless your VOIP is using 70% (4.6Mbits/sec)of your connection you won't be throttled. VOIP uses very little data, but the latency is what counts. This is true of listening to music and everything like that. What the throttling accounts to is if your downloading something larger than about 740MB, then you might be throttled. If your downloading something smaller than that then you won't be using your connection long enough to hit the 15 minute mark. And, on top of that, this will really only impact you when there is congestion on the node, if your node is not horribly oversold you won't see this on your connection. I use Skype for video chat, not pure phone calls. This is what will cause my upstream to be saturated. |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | reply to lordofwhee
Re: Yay karl, another blunder
No it hasn't. |
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JSY
Premium
join:2000-04-05
Elmhurst, NY
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
·Bway.net
| reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :And BTW, people that use more than 250 gigs a month are piraters anyways, and I am glad to see ISPs getting involved in young males using 80% of their bandwidth so they can download bootleg copies of ironman. Frankly, I don't give a rats ass what people do with their bandwidth. The real debate should be if it's right for Comcast to do this and was it the right solution. I don't want to hear that it's justified because certain people do this and this would only affect them. Who gives a shit? The ends do NOT justify the means. Debate about Comcast's "solution" to their problem - not this bullshit red herring crap about this affects these people because they do this and good for them. It only makes me think that you're guilty of doing the thing that you want people to think you abhor. He who smelt it dealt it. LOL!
And what's a 'pirater'? |
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fldiver
Premium
join:1999-12-27
Jacksonville, FL
| reply to baineschile
Can't you come up with anything new and creative; clearly not because if you stopped and thought for 10 seconds you would realize there are plenty of legitimate ways to use more than 250GB; WHY are there always people like you that always fall back on the RIAA/MPAA rhetoric..?? |
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