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Romney2012
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Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part

said by Nightshade:

said by Romney2012:

Yes, train other countries. Because it helps to get foreign countries to enforce laws protecting "intellectual property" rights of US companies and helps protect a large part of US exports.
Even if the foreign laws of intellectual property rights are different than US Laws?

Tell me TK are they gonna teach foreign companies US law or their own laws? If that's the case what laws are going to be more supreme, the laws of the US or the laws of the foreign country that the US companies choose to do business in?

I think foreign countries know their laws pretty well. After all, they did pass them. The last thing any foreign country want is some other country coming in and training them what the foreign country's laws are and it should be done their way. Many countries would consider that a threat of their sovereignty.
And the education part is to get them(countries) to strengthen their laws and show that it is often in their own intellectual property industries interests to do so and that reciprocity benefits all.
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said by Romney2012:

said by Nightshade:

said by Romney2012:

Yes, train other countries. Because it helps to get foreign countries to enforce laws protecting "intellectual property" rights of US companies and helps protect a large part of US exports.
Even if the foreign laws of intellectual property rights are different than US Laws?

Tell me TK are they gonna teach foreign companies US law or their own laws? If that's the case what laws are going to be more supreme, the laws of the US or the laws of the foreign country that the US companies choose to do business in?

I think foreign countries know their laws pretty well. After all, they did pass them. The last thing any foreign country want is some other country coming in and training them what the foreign country's laws are and it should be done their way. Many countries would consider that a threat of their sovereignty.
And the education part is to get them(countries) to strengthen their laws and show that it is often in their own intellectual property industries interests to do so and that reciprocity benefits all.
American laws are way way too strong atm though. it is totally unreasonable that current copyrights last nearly 100 years after the death of the artist. i could support Copyright more if it lasted say only 15-20 years from the creation of the media. in other words making it more similar to a drug patent.
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jc100

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reply to Romney2012
So wait, America should TELL THE WORLD HOW TO ACT? Isn't that why we are HATED enough already? We try to tell everybody everything. Just because we have laws here, DOES NOT MEAN others have to abide by them. You my friend don't think before you type. Every country is SOVEREIGN and free to choose their legal system without OUR interference.



Nightshade
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said by Romney2012:

And the education part is to get them(countries) to strengthen their laws and show that it is often in their own intellectual property industries interests to do so and that reciprocity benefits all.
Really good theory but reality I would think dictates otherwise. This is especially true when our world reputation isn't the best in the world right now (not that I all care too much what the world thinks of us) and this could be seen by other countries as just another way of us interfering in their culture and ideals as a sovereign nation. Two of the worst offenders of our copyright laws are Russia and China. Is this czar going to go to Russia and China and "educate" them about our laws? That should be a good laugh. The thought of "thanks, but no thanks" comes to mind with these two countries.

Besides, who's to say that our copyright and intellectual property rights should be the world standard? Has us, as a nation, become that egotistical and naive to think what is good for the goose is also good for the gander? This thinking always does more harm than good and history and current events prove this time and time again.
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jc100

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Russia and China aren't going to listen to our Demands? I'm shocked...(Enter shocked look of McCully Caulkin via Home Alone). Anyway, sarcasm aside, you're right. The world hates us enough and I don't think they give two craps about what we want them to do and don't do. Russia took APPROPRIATE action against Georgia even as we didn't want them too (our interests are in Georgia via Oil / Caspian Sea). Yet, Russia has a mind of it's own. The same for China and it's Human Rights.. We call them names but trade with them like trading was going out of style.


Sammer

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said by Kearnstd:

American laws are way way too strong atm though. it is totally unreasonable that current copyrights last nearly 100 years after the death of the artist. i could support Copyright more if it lasted say only 15-20 years from the creation of the media. in other words making it more similar to a drug patent.
Actually its 70 years after the death of the author/artist or 90 years for a corporation. While it will never be as short as 20 years copyrights longer than 50 years have created a major problem. The vast majority of copyrighted works will never make it to the public domain because copies deteriorate or have been destroyed after 50 years. IOW most of the copyrighted works over 50 years old that make it to the public domain will be the result of infringement.

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