P Ness
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Re: $700 billion could also...
said by NetAdmin  :1. Repair or replace a good portion, if not most, of the structurally deficient bridges and roadways in the US 2. Help halt and reverse coastal erosion and wetlands loss in states like Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas and other areas. 3. Could build Category 5 hurricane protection in areas line Southeast and Southwestern Louisiana, Florida, Texas and other vulnerable areas. 4. It would be MORE than enough to overhaul the deplorable state of health care and mental health services that Veterans and former armed services members get by overhauling the VA and modernizing the facilities. The list goes on. 1. blah, should not even cost that much
2. worthless.
3. worthless. no one is paying to protect my house why should i pay to protect yours?
4. blah so much corruption and wasted money..there is already enough in military spending to do this. |
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NetAdmin
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| said by P Ness :1. blah, should not even cost that much There's a lot more out there than you think.
2. worthless.
3. worthless. no one is paying to protect my house why should i pay to protect yours? Actually, in both cases, the federal government's policies to oil leases and lax environmental regulations regarding wetlands during the oil boom is WHY the problem exists. The federal government should fix something they created.
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Boogeyman
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| Soil erosion is caused by wind and water movement taking away small bits of soil with it. So unless you think that the federal government is God, Allah, Jehovah, FSM, Buddha, Xenu, etc, then no, its not the governments fault.
The noly way I know of for humans to contribute to soil erosion is to remove all plant life from the soil that helps hold the soil in place. And yes, we have done plenty of that. But its not big oil doing it, its big agriculture, big mining, and other industries that tear up large chunks of land. Though I believe the mining companies are now required to fix the mess they make.
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NOCMan
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NetAdmin
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said by Boogeyman :Soil erosion is caused by wind and water movement taking away small bits of soil with it. Soil erosion, like that caused by rivers and streams, is a far different animal from coastal erosion.
The noly way I know of for humans to contribute to soil erosion is to remove all plant life from the soil that helps hold the soil in place. And yes, we have done plenty of that. But its not big oil doing it, its big agriculture, big mining, and other industries that tear up large chunks of land. Though I believe the mining companies are now required to fix the mess they make. Look into the coastal swamps and marshes in areas of Texas and southern Louisiana. During the late sixties, seventies and throughout the eighties, oil exploration firms ripped the marshlands to shreds by dredging canals, which permitted salt water intrusion that killed the marshlands. The Corps of Engineers built levees along the Mississippi the Mississippi, which also contributes to coastal erosion in Southern Louisiana. The intracoastal waterway, in other areas, is also causing its own share of problems.
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sansri88
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You aren't a civil engineer, are you.
My dad is one. He's worked in the NYC area for 20+ years in the industry.
Many bridges are in terrible shape, and to fix them would require replacement, not rehab. Just look at the deficient Tappan Zee Bridge. $6 billion just to replace the bridge.
The costs are staggering, and are not as cheap as you may think they are.
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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Huntsville, AL | reply to NOCMan
FSM = Flying Spaghetti Monster 
I would never risk offending His Noodliness.
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Boogeyman
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I just moved from Panama City, FL, and let me tell you, it takes less than 6 months for the underbrush and weeds to grow back high enough that you would know it was ever gone.
But yeah, they probably did do that a lot in the 80's, but that was 20 years ago. A lot of stuff has been growing since then. Or someone just built a walmart/condo/housing comunity there.
"Coastal Erosion" is caused by waves removing sand from beaches. PC spent over $3m to have sand dredged out of the Gulf and put back on the beach right before Ivan hit.
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doc69
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said by NetAdmin :said by P Ness :1. blah, should not even cost that much There's a lot more out there than you think. 2. worthless.
3. worthless. no one is paying to protect my house why should i pay to protect yours? Actually, in both cases, the federal government's policies to oil leases and lax environmental regulations regarding wetlands during the oil boom is WHY the problem exists. The federal government should fix something they created.
If the government created something it was an accident. If they destroyed something it was on purpose. |
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NetAdmin
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said by Boogeyman :I just moved from Panama City, FL, and let me tell you, it takes less than 6 months for the underbrush and weeds to grow back high enough that you would know it was ever g one. But yeah, they probably did do that a lot in the 80's, but that was 20 years ago. A lot of stuff has been growing since then. Wetlands and coastal swamps are different ecosystems from a beach, so what works on a beach doesn't work in wetlands or coastal swamps.
And no, it has not gotten better. Saltwater intrusion is a process that accelerates. And in 20 years, the problem has gotten worse in the wetlands, putting more and more homes and industry at risk.
"Coastal Erosion" is caused by waves removing sand from beaches. PC spent over $3m to have sand dredged out of the Gulf and put back on the beach right before Ivan hit.
Coastal refers to much more than waves removing just sand from a beach and is not always repaired with the simple task of pumping sand in.
Like I said, research the topic.
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jc100
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All hail the FSM. His Noodly Appendages grace us all. |
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