CUBS_FAN
Next Year Again..
join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL | another.
First we get smothered by advertisements at BestBuy for Comcast. Now this from U-Verse. |
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OSUGoose
join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
clubs: | looks like maybe the local best buy arnt near a vrad to have a in store demo? |
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CUBS_FAN
Next Year Again..
join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL | Here in Chicago for union reasons I think there is only 1 Walmart within the city limits. And U-Verse is mostly being deployed within the outskirts of the City and its connecting suburbs. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
 ·Comcast
| There shouldn't be any. The Walmart they put on the Border in Evergreen Park will now shut down an entire mall (Evergreen Plaza) due to undercut pricing. It's sad actually, its one of the first malls built in the country. So the people that were getting paid decent wages with benefits will be replaced by minimum wage workers with benefits provided by Uncle Sam...or you and I.
Sorry to hear about your Cubs...maybe this will make you feel better..
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=quKraecWnTs
couldnt resist 
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The "Lifetime" channel is responsible for 83% of all divorces...Robert Ginty |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by S_engineer  :There shouldn't be any. The Walmart they put on the Border in Evergreen Park will now shut down an entire mall (Evergreen Plaza) due to undercut pricing. It's sad actually, its one of the first malls built in the country. So the people that were getting paid decent wages with benefits will be replaced by minimum wage workers with benefits provided by Uncle Sam...or you and I. Sorry to hear about your Cubs...maybe this will make you feel better.. (youtube clip) resist They only way that mall would go out of busines if it lost cusotmers to wal-amrt. Now cusotmers are peole like you can me th CHOOSE to go to wal-mart because they offer the same goods for LESS. Yet somehow you think that A) this is bad and B) people shouldn't be allowed to have CHOICE in where they shop. So I should be forced shop at some place and pay 25% more for the same thing so some guy can make $10 an hour instead of $7.50? This is different than welfare how? |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| There is choice in a mall. The fact that you have an entity such as Walmart thats willing to take a loss in one store (by selling products at a loss) in order to starve out competition around it is detrimental the community as a whole. Unemployment rates rise, as do taxes to pay for those individuals. Not to mention what this does to the established municiple tax base once these businesses call it quits. Municiple services get cut or taxes get raised somewhere else. All so you can shop at the worlds largest Chinese dime store!
China owns I believe 30% of our national deficit. By shopping at Walmart, you contribute to their financial abilty to by our debt!
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta···lic_debt
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The "Lifetime" channel is responsible for 83% of all divorces...Robert Ginty |
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psx_defector
join:2001-06-09
Allen, TX
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said by BF69 :Now cusotmers are peole like you can me th CHOOSE to go to wal-mart because they offer the same goods for LESS. If you count them pricing at X.98, then yes, Walmart is cheaper. Most pricing on like items is only a few pennies off other retailers. Especially electronics.
Saying you can get one item at Walmart cheaper than another item anywhere else, even though they are not the same item, is disingenuous.
Walmart doesn't have cheaper prices. Walmart just has cheaper crap. |
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mjwise
join:2007-05-09
Ann Arbor, MI
 ·AT&T U-Verse
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Right. Evergreen Plaza, by my quick research, has not been doing well for a few years, and apparently that Christmastime fire last year helped nothing. Wal-mart compels no one to shop there, especially in the Chicago area.
And in 1952, I'm sure the Luddites like you were mourning the loss of the general store and the A&P to this big concrete monolith called the "Evergreen Plaza." Luddites never change. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| If I were a Luddite, well then I wouldn't be in an online forum, much less embrace the Internet in the first place. Thats a pretty stupid analogy. Are you a Luddite for yearning for the days when Michigan had an reputable automotive industry, or do you embrace the overseas vehicle invasion?
Theres alot more to it than your 2 minute research shows. Unless you know it, then you should keep it to yourself!
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The "Lifetime" channel is responsible for 83% of all divorces...Robert Ginty |
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mjwise
join:2007-05-09
Ann Arbor, MI
·AT&T U-Verse
| Luddism comes in many forms, and many Luddites use the Internet. You obviously don't oppose all development and technological change - just certain ones. If it were up to you, we'd all still be buying our buggy whips at Ma and Pa's general store (which had great health benefits, you know).
Seriously though, I've been to areas that are still big-box store less (portions of the UP come to mind). Trust me, a Wal-mart would be a vast improvement in those areas over the mangy local grocery store with the owner's dog slinking around the grimy interior's poor selection of week-old produce.
> Are you a Luddite for yearning for the days when Michigan had an reputable automotive industry, or do you embrace the overseas vehicle invasion?
I think propping them up is wrong. They've had many opportunities to survive and prosper, and their managements have repeatedly pissed them away. (Ann Arbor has few Big 3 auto jobs). I believe it is Toyota building a huge facility not too far away from me either.
So tell me, why does Evergreen deserve a bailout and a forced shuttering of Wal-mart? Are they not letting the mallwalkers in at the Wal-mart or something? |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| In just the way that you think propping the big 3 up is wrong, I think that allowing a business to come in monopolize business via undercut pricing (at a loss) is wrong.
Listen, the village Evergreen Park received several million from the Walmart Corp as an incentive to allow their store to be built. This money went to the repaving of roads (w/asphalt)87th street and 95th street. Also new asphalt sidewalks were poured. Walmart wanted this site because of its close proximity to the City of Chicago (right across the street). Walmart went in with pricing thats below wholesale, forcing local small businesses in both EP and Chicago out of business. The village thought Walmart would "actually bring more traffic"...they were wrong. The Walmart Corp is keeping this store in place specifically to kill other local businesses in Chicago. The ones they kill in EP are just considered collateral damage.
Now take my distaste for Walmart aside, and think about the small businesses in and around the mall that will be asking you, joe taxpayer, for unemployment benefits. Plus, now you have the Walmart employees hitting up uncle sam for medical benefits.
Walmart means death to local business!
And by the way, those roads couldn't stand up to the winters, so they need repaving again.
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The "Lifetime" channel is responsible for 83% of all divorces...Robert Ginty |
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CUBS_FAN
Next Year Again..
join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
 ·Vonage
| said by S_engineer :Walmart means death to local business! And by the way, those roads couldn't stand up to the winters, so they need repaving again. It happened that way when a Home Depot opened up in my neighborhood. A smaller Ace Hardware where I used to "GET SERVICE" like window screen repair and glass cutting is gone because they couldn't keep up with BIG BOX stores like Menard's and Lowe's and aforementioned Home Depot. |
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willp1
Premium
join:2003-12-19
Las Cruces, NM | reply to BF69
Yes Wal mart sells seconds and lots China and india made crap................. |
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Mogen David
@cyberlynk.net | reply to S_engineer
The typical Chicago Daly Mob Mentality; PROTECT & KEEP UNIONS IN and keep every non-union shop out. NO CHOICES, JUST FOLLOW LIKE SHEEP AND SHUT UP! |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | said by Mogen David :
The typical Chicago Daly Mob Mentality; PROTECT & KEEP UNIONS IN and keep every non-union shop out. NO CHOICES, JUST FOLLOW LIKE SHEEP AND SHUT UP!
your a fool! |
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