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Is it unsafe to burn Pine in wood stove?

I have had a small argument with roomate. We have a wood stove and use IT to heat the house with. Earlier this year the utility company came here and cut down a tree for us, it was some sort of sticky pine tree, a huge one.

My roomate seems to think it would be a good idea to use the wood from the felled pine tree to heat the house. I told him that I believe it would be quite hazardous to burn pine of any type due to build up in the chimney from it. Besides that, the tree was not dead when it was felled and as such, the wood is green.

Am I right? If I am, what types of wood ARE bad to use? If I am wrong, can you burn just anything?

Note, I did sweep the chimney over the springtime this year.
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It is unsafe as it will build up too much creosote and increase the risk of a chimney fire. Use hardwood, oak, maple, birch, ash, black cherry, beech. Those are ones that come to mind and grow around me.
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Most pine varieties are a sappy, soft wood. It burns fast and hot. I would not burn it alone and absolutely not right away. You can burn a small piece or two to get the fire started and mix some in with other hardwood to burn only after it sat and seasoned for a long time (like 18 months).
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What frustrates me is that my roomate is sometimes a Mr. Knowitall even when he doesn't know what he is talking about. For instance: I am a LASER technologist among other things, and went to college for it, but he will argue about that topic with me even though he has little college and no LASER training.

He laughed at me when I told him it would cause creosote build up a few weeks ago, he made a face at me and got mad. Sometimes it is really hard living here, heh.
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said by jack b:

Most pine varieties are a sappy, soft wood. It burns fast and hot. I would not burn it alone and absolutely not right away. You can burn a small piece or two to get the fire started and mix some in with other hardwood to burn only after it sat and seasoned for a long time (like 18 months).
Dead on, use for kindling
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Re: Is it unsafe to burn Pine in wood stove?

I lived in Montana for quite a few years heating my homes with a wood stove. I preferred Yellow Pine (Ponderosa Pine) for my fires as it started fast. I will agree that burning pine can produce more creosote buildup versus burning hard woods, but regular cleaning the flue is where it's at. I never a had a problem with pine. I also used Douglas Fir, Larch, and Spruce as those were the predominant trees up there, but I preferred Ponderosa. Those other woods I mentioned are more sappy then pine.

Pine also makes excellent kindling as it starts fast.

I say experiment and find out whether you like it.

I know there are different varieties of pine, so YMMV.

Save yourself some bucks, and use the wood.

Edit: I see that you mentioned it was still green. ALWAYS use seasoned wood.
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Soft small woods to start, then hard to keep it going. Wait did I say that. Seriously like other said softwoods will build up creosote.



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There are two issues with burning Pine, it is less dense then hardwoods and it has a lot of Resin.

Assuming it is well seasoned (which yours is not) burning Pine is not a problem but you need to make sure fire does not get too hot or too cool. Because Pine is not very dense it tends to burn very hot, but only for a short period of time. On the other hand if fire is not hot enough volatiles will vaporize rather then burn in the stove. If chimney cools gas enough vapor condenses forming Creosote creating a potential fire hazard. Chimmney fires are to be avoided at all cost - that can be truely harrowing experiences.

I'd suggest cutting felled tree to stove length and split it. Store outside under a tarp until next year. Use a little at a time next year. Hat to waste free wood just be careful.

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said by signmeuptoo:

What frustrates me is that my roomate is sometimes a Mr. Knowitall even when he doesn't know what he is talking about. He laughed at me when I told him it would cause creosote build up a few weeks ago, he made a face at me and got mad. Sometimes it is really hard living here, heh.
Tell him STFU and if he wants to pay for the wood, he may do so. But for safe heat, you should stand up and tell him what is what. Pine is sappy and soft. It has veins of sap that will not only create creosote in the flue but can also explode deposits of pitch which could throw embers out of the fireplace and start a fire in the living room. Of course, that's only if there is no screen in front of the fireplace.

Unseasoned (green)pine is worse. Stay away from it for at least one year. It won't burn properly. And, it's a bitch to split.

Or you could arrange for other living arrangements.
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Pine wood is sappy and burns hot. It can lead to cresote buildup in your chimney which can increase the chances of a chimney fire.

Having said that, you can burn the pine a little bit at a time as long as you're using mostly good hardwood. The pine can be used as kindling, etc
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Tell him to call any chimney sweep and he'll be told the same thing. Pines build up creosote. Will your chimney be a fire hazard after burning a cord of pine? No, but it will accelerate how often you need to clean it to prevent it from being one.


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From the sounds of it, the wood is really to green yet to burn, especially with pine. Best to let it set for a year or so. After that, depending on the type of stove you have, I would have no problem using it.



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said by jack b:

Most pine varieties are a sappy, soft wood. It burns fast and hot. I would not burn it alone and absolutely not right away. You can burn a small piece or two to get the fire started and mix some in with other hardwood to burn only after it sat and seasoned for a long time (like 18 months).
This is good advice. I heated primarily with wood for 10-15 years, and pine is excellent for kindling, bad for mass burning (due to creosote and burning quickly).

If you're concerned about creosote buildup, let the fire really burn hot for an hour or so every couple days. Creosote deposits in chimneys and stovepipes will get solid and crack and fall, which is preferable to staying in place, building up, and catching fire.
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pine is okay to burn.

green wood is not okay to burn.

as long as you have your chimney inspected and cleaned annually there is nothing to worry about.... unless you burn green wood



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which brings up how long's it been since your chimney's been cleaned. Are you owning the house, or renting? The last places I lived that had fireplaces were both apts. and you NEVER got yer chimney sweeped (caveats: I lived in Cali all me life, and I'd assume the complex mgrs. being maybe similar, would be uninformed as I was at the time; in califonia fireplaces are more status/option than utilitarian unless yer high elevation).
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Get an oil burner.....and a new room mate.



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You might consider wood pellet stoves too, they burn VERY clean, hot and are a lot easier to use and maintain.

»www.woodpelletstoves.net/

They produce little smoke, which is a plus, especially in the winter with the inversion layers which can trap smoke like fog in low lying areas and valleys.



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which brings up how long's it been since your chimney's been cleaned. Are you owning the house, or renting? The last places I lived that had fireplaces were both apts. and you NEVER got yer chimney sweeped (caveats: I lived in Cali all me life, and I'd assume the complex mgrs. being maybe similar, would be uninformed as I was at the time; in califonia fireplaces are more status/option than utilitarian unless yer high elevation).
Get outside the cities into rural areas of CA like here in Mendocino County in NorCal, and wood and pellet stoves are extensively used.
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