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anoner

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pantech um175 connection manager?

i have millenicom and had to send my franklin 680u back a couple days ago because it died. they sent a pantech um175 but it didnt come with a connection manager like the 680u. can i get one for the pantech so i can see my signal strength and change things like my home agent?

Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

go to »vzam.net, select the Pantech, and download Verizon Access Manager. I'm surprised this was not included with your modem.
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anoner

@myvzw.com

Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

thx jim. yea the only thing it came with was a cdr that had the pantech drivers on it.

when i try to download this, it asks me for a 10 digit verizon wireless number but millenicom didnt give me one

Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

call up support, they are 24/7, tell'em you need a number or see if you can find anything in the modem properties. heck, plug in millenicom's number and see if that works know anybody with a Verizon phone?
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dMarks
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join:2007-02-09
Leslie, MI
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I'm a bit worried about this situation myself. My CDU680 just "died" tonight and will be getting the Pantech UM175 from Millenicom. According to Verizon's coverage map I am in a dead zone for their service. I get Sprint and Alltel. Yes, I know Alltel is being bought by Verizon, but are they already considered part of Verizon's network yet?
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Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA

Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

FCC has not finalized deal, it is imminent, but they are not combined yet.
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dMarks
Melting Faces For Fun

join:2007-02-09
Leslie, MI

Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

Which means I may have some issues with the new modem. Great. Just what I needed.

dMarks
Melting Faces For Fun

join:2007-02-09
Leslie, MI
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Really hope that the Pantech connection manager can be used with a Millenicom device, because otherwise there will be no way to make adjustments for receiving the best signal, or even know if you're getting an EVDO signal other than performance of your connection (1xRTT isn't usable for what I do).
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Jim_in_VA

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OK here's what you do. Go to »vzam.net. and click on "Consumer Downloads". In the drop down boxes select your operating system and modem. When it asks for a Verizon number enter all 0's, that is 000-00-0000. You can then download Vzaccess manager. Its a 13.6 MB file.
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dMarks
Melting Faces For Fun

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Leslie, MI
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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

K, downloading now. Hope to get the modem by Saturday, but probably won't until next week some time. I'd imagine Millenicom is probably sending out a lot of em this week.

EDIT: Thanks for the help so far Jim.
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Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

dMarks, a suggestion. If you are using any external antennas you probably want to go ahead and order a pigtail/adapter cable for the Pantech now. Have it for when the modem arrives.
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dMarks
Melting Faces For Fun

join:2007-02-09
Leslie, MI

Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

Yep, did that last night. Probably won't get it until Monday though. Paying +40.00 for overnight shipping is a bit much for someone drawing unemployment.

Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA

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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

I completely understand my friend. You can often get these at Radio Shack. The adapter cable for the Sierra Compass 597 and the Novatel U727 also fits the Pantech UM175

dMarks
Melting Faces For Fun

join:2007-02-09
Leslie, MI
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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

said by Jim_in_VA See Profile :

The adapter cable for the Sierra Compass 597 and the Novatel U727 also fits the Pantech UM175
DOH!! My dad I think has an extra adapter for the 597 Now that I go back to where I ordered it from it did mention the Compass on the list of compatible devices. Perhaps I can return it if I find my dad does have one.

Also, when my dad got his Sierra, he went to a few places around here, including Radio Shack but they didn't have the adapter.
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AcunUser

@swbell.net

Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

I've had issues for the past 24hrs and spoke to a tech with Millenicom this morning. Apparently they've been cut off by Sprint for some reason and everyone will be receiving the UM175. Whether or not the new modem is through sprint, I don't know but the general google consensus is that it is now Verizon. I'm just glad they have tech support and respond....
ydoucare

join:2003-03-12
Rensselaer, IN

Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

Everything is still working fine here with my U720 on Sprint. At least I have a Verizon EVDO signal if *everyone* ends up getting switched over.

caribconsult
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I recently noticed a rash of users with problems with their CDU680 from Millenicom, and MC swapped it for a Pantech175 and that was the end of the problem, but I think the real problem was Sprint lost or deleted or deactivated the authentication sets (the MDN and MDID numbers you put in when running the activation wizard) for a large number of MC CDU users. I don't have absolute proof positive of this, but this is the impression I got from the senior tech guy.

They were going to swap me a Pantech for my CDU, but the senior guy said to try re-authenticating with a new set of numbers he gave me and that did it...connected right away...nothing wrong with the CDU.

So now I'd like to know what you new Pantech folks think of it? Is it noticeably better or worse in any way from the CDU? Does it have a ##DEBUG screen? It would be good if someone started a thread for Pantech users so we could all get a feel for this new device that one day we may have to use. Thanks to anyone providing some feedback here.
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aSic
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Re: Reactivating dead CDU680's

Heh, thats actually what I'm doing over in my thread. More of leass being turned into a digest of whats happened, and what I'm learning about the new VZW device. Yes there is a debug...

»Millenicom: Official Franklin died / UM175 swap thread
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JAC

join:2008-02-29
Siloam Springs, AR
How to make the CDU work i wonder. The UM wont pic evdo here, on 1Xrtt or whatever the slow service is

dMarks
Melting Faces For Fun

join:2007-02-09
Leslie, MI
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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

JAC, from what I understand, you will probably have to call up Millenicom's main office and get in touch with a senior tech for new MDN and MSID numbers. Just let them know that Verizon is not available to you where you live, so you need the CDU680 reactivated.
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caribconsult
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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

I think you hit the nail on the head, DM. Do you have a direct number for Oregon HQ? The numbers I used to have now are re-routed to their callcenter in Georgia, I think, and the only number I still have for HQ is (800) 898-7072 but that takes you to billing and you generally get the answering machine. Do you have a general HQ number that works?
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dMarks
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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

No, I don't. I've yet to get the UM175 to see if it will work for me, might be today I hope. If it doesn't, I'll just have to push my way through the call center and get transferred to the Oregon HQ. At least I'll be armed with the fact that others have been able to get the CDU680 reactivated.

EDIT: I did find a number using Google search for Millenicom in Portland, OR. It's (503) 768-3063. It will be a long distance call, and probably connect to their office, not tech support, but may be able to negotiate your way from there. Dunno if you had that number before or not Carib
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caribconsult
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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

Yes I have that number but I have it under FAX numbers. I don't recall if I ever sent a fax to them. The 800 numbers that used to connect to HQ in Oregon now go to a callcenter in Georgia, and you have to ask them to elevate you and then a tech from HQ will call; just hope you are home when they do! Or leave a cell#.
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Rave4Keep

@myvzw.com

Got my UM175 and so far so good. Getting it up and working on Ubuntu was a snap too.

Just keep in mind (I believe anyway) the CDU-680 connected you to Sprint. The UM175 connects you to Verizon. So it's not apples to apples comparison for the two modems.

So far for me Verizon seems faster but the speed is flaky. Ping times go from 150ms to 3seconds for no apparent reason. But all and all (this is just day one) it seems FASTER..

kuei

@myvzw.com

I think Millenicom users (i included) just got shafted. It seems all franklin modems were disconnected and replaced with the pantech garbage without even so much as a heads up warning. The main problem is we are paying for a 3.1/1.8 mbps connection and this pantech is only acheiving 115kbps.
$60/mo for a dialup connection? What a ripoff!
cooljay

join:2006-09-11
Franklinton, LA


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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

said by kuei :

The main problem is we are paying for a 3.1/1.8 mbps connection and this pantech is only achieving 115kbps.$60/mo for a dialup connection? What a ripoff!
See the other thread on how to get your CDU reactivated if you don't have sufficient Verizon coverage.

As for the "we're paying for 3.1/1.8 mbps" no you're not. As with any other ISP other there, you're paying for speeds "UP TO" which means you're not promised 3.1 mbps and says so right on their website "Speeds up to 3.1M/1.8M". Not all cell towers have more than 1 T1 line so it's not possible for some cell towers to even get over 1.2 mbps, not to mention tower crowding (over loaded towers).
Jack_in_VA
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Mathews, VA


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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

said by cooljay See Profile

As for the "we're paying for 3.1/1.8 mbps" no you're not. As with any other ISP other there, you're paying for speeds "UP TO" which means you're not promised 3.1 mbps and says so right on their website "Speeds up to 3.1M/1.8M". Not all cell towers have more than 1 T1 line so it's not possible for some cell towers to even get over 1.2 mbps, not to mention tower crowding (over loaded towers).
A single T-1 limits me to ~1200Kb/s. My big problem is I have terrible browsing speeds even at 1200. Throughput is about the same as dialup. I almost think Sprint is throttling it. I've tried to run IE without add-ons but that doesn't do a thing.

I don't see anyone getting anywhere close to the 3.1 possible speed. Too much tower loading for that even when it's available. Perhaps some don't understand the technical limitations of wireless.

caribconsult
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Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

Jack: try your mobile device in an airport or in a busy city or urban area where there might be towers with multiple T1 lines and you'll probably see speeds up in the high 1Mb to 2Mb range. Some of the posters here are lucky enough to have that service where they live.

As for you poor souls who got the Pantech and are experiencing miserable speeds, it's probably due to poor verizon coverage in your area, and maybe you are only connecting at RTT speeds, not EVDO. You can thank Millenicom's idiot techies at the call center for this, and partly blame MCom themselves for not jumping on this situation and leaving it in the hands of know-nothings. HQ knew fairly quickly what had happened, and many of us, including yours truly, were lucky enough to get our CDU's reactivated, instead of going for the swap, but even days later, people were still getting swapped by the GA team...didn't HQ tell them? It seems like a government operation more than anything!
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Jack_in_VA
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Mathews, VA

Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

I got my 680 reactivated and refused delivery on the Panteh. My problem here is the tower. I don't know how Sprint connects with the web from the tower. It seems to be the bottleneck.
cooljay

join:2006-09-11
Franklinton, LA

Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

said by Jack_in_VA See Profile :

My problem here is the tower. I don't know how Sprint connects with the web from the tower. It seems to be the bottleneck.
I've been looking at your speed tests that you've posted and it does seem to be a tower issue, especially seeing that high latency kick in at times. Not sure if it's something wrong with the towers hardware or just too many people on at once .
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Jack_in_VA
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Mathews, VA

Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

said by cooljay See Profile :

said by Jack_in_VA See Profile :

My problem here is the tower. I don't know how Sprint connects with the web from the tower. It seems to be the bottleneck.
I've been looking at your speed tests that you've posted and it does seem to be a tower issue, especially seeing that high latency kick in at times. Not sure if it's something wrong with the towers hardware or just too many people on at once .
It's puzzling to me. All over the place. Below is latest speed test. Nothing changed on my end but big difference. I'm in a very rural area and don't think too many are on the tower. I could live with the lower speeds easily but the slow dialup browsing speed kills me.


T_Flight

join:2007-12-30
·Millenicom

I've seen some slams already on the new modem that Millenicom has been replacing for FREE and want to straighten that out right NOW.

People, before you slam stuff, why don't you try it first? Isn't that a novel idea?

I just got this modem today, and am very impressed with it. First speed test showed my upload more than doubled. I would see ranges of up to 350 and no higher before with rthe CDU680, and first speedtest right out of the gate today showed 744 up. I'be NEVER seen that kind of speed up before with my franklin...not even burst speeds or freak speedtests.

Becasue of the increased upload speeds, I get quicker rountrip times and my pages load faster. I will be flying online tomorrow to test it out with my flight sims, but from what I've seen already it's by FAR better.

I had some issues recently with my lights on my Franklin doing strange things. MC is aware of this, and it's a common issue. I suspect Firmware issues with the Franklin, and also had issues with the software getting corupted on my onboard memory drive on my Franklin.

Get one of these and try it first. It may or may not work for everybody, but my bet is most people will like them. I'm ina location very close to a Tower that is not saturated that either has Optical lines or multiple T1's. I saw download speeds in excess of 1200 down so i know the towers here are hot.

I have not tweaked or even downloaded connection manager software yet. This is a box stock Pantech with only drivers loaded and using Dialup Networking. I have NO ISSUES with this device at all just the way it is. If that is all I get, I am very satisfied. It sure beats dialup or Satelite, and I can go anywhere with it.

Remember, MC is sending these out for free, and they've had a hell of a last couple of weeks...cut them some slack.
Mobility

join:2008-11-03
Beverly Hills, CA

Re: pantech um175 connection manager?

said by T_Flight See Profile :

I've seen some slams already on the new modem that Millenicom has been replacing for FREE and want to straighten that out right NOW.

People, before you slam stuff, why don't you try it first? Isn't that a novel idea?

I just got this modem today, and am very impressed with it. First speed test showed my upload more than doubled. I would see ranges of up to 350 and no higher before with rthe CDU680, and first speedtest right out of the gate today showed 744 up. I'be NEVER seen that kind of speed up before with my franklin...not even burst speeds or freak speedtests.

Becasue of the increased upload speeds, I get quicker rountrip times and my pages load faster. I will be flying online tomorrow to test it out with my flight sims, but from what I've seen already it's by FAR better.

I had some issues recently with my lights on my Franklin doing strange things. MC is aware of this, and it's a common issue. I suspect Firmware issues with the Franklin, and also had issues with the software getting corupted on my onboard memory drive on my Franklin.

Get one of these and try it first. It may or may not work for everybody, but my bet is most people will like them. I'm ina location very close to a Tower that is not saturated that either has Optical lines or multiple T1's. I saw download speeds in excess of 1200 down so i know the towers here are hot.

I have not tweaked or even downloaded connection manager software yet. This is a box stock Pantech with only drivers loaded and using Dialup Networking. I have NO ISSUES with this device at all just the way it is. If that is all I get, I am very satisfied. It sure beats dialup or Satelite, and I can go anywhere with it.

Remember, MC is sending these out for free, and they've had a hell of a last couple of weeks...cut them some slack.
T_Flight,

Myself and others have made the same positive observations without being overly apologetic. If you are going to be realistic about the service of the new modem, you should be realistic about the poor, and in some cases intentionally dishonest, communication.

One should also be realistic that signal, thus performance, varies for different people.

The vitriol in your post is quite suspect. Quoted for posterity. Really - the demanding and defensive tone ("NOW" etc) is quite absurd.
Jack_in_VA
Premium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA

What happened to the "fantastic" CDU-680 speeds you were claiming a few months ago. Speeds I might add you never posted screen-shots of. Now you say you only saw speeds up to 350?

I would suggest that any speed gain realized is not because of the Pantech but the switch to Verizon Wireless Service. Therefore it is not an apples to apples comparison.

T_Flight

join:2007-12-30
·Millenicom

Vitriol huh? Whatever man.

Anyhow here's a screenshot for the doubters.



This was just done. I'm well aware that Tower distance an other issues affect these things. Nothing is gonna work 100% of the time for everybody.

The posts I was responding to were not the ones with genuine concerns, but the ones in this thread calling the Pantech "junk" when it's obvious they haven't even tried this modem yet. That spreads bad information and causes more problems for these companies. They don't need trouble right now.

They had no control over what happened. it's believed that many modems were disabled, but it's not know for a fact yet. They had no control over it. They are replacing modems for free at their cost. You can't ask for any better service. For most people, they will end up getting a better modem and better speeds than what they had, and I didn't want naysayers causing people to send back Pantech's thinking they were Junk, because I'm already seeing that they are not.

People could very well stand to get better service. Some may not. Some may wish to stick with their Franklin and it may work better for them, but we nee to let them be the Judge of that.

I think it's clear by the above test that these modems are not "Junk", and should not be labeled that way. That's bogus info that has no place here.

T_Flight

join:2007-12-30
·Millenicom

Here are actual pings. Sometimes Speedtest can be off by a great margin with Wireless.

Pinging yahoo.com [68.180.206.184] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 68.180.206.184: bytes=32 time=163ms TTL=44
Reply from 68.180.206.184: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=44
Reply from 68.180.206.184: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=44
Reply from 68.180.206.184: bytes=32 time=163ms TTL=44

Ping statistics for 68.180.206.184:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 163ms, Maximum = 170ms, Average = 166ms

Pinging google.com [64.233.187.99] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 64.233.187.99: bytes=32 time=125ms TTL=238
Reply from 64.233.187.99: bytes=32 time=116ms TTL=238
Reply from 64.233.187.99: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=238
Reply from 64.233.187.99: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=238

Ping statistics for 64.233.187.99:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 95ms, Maximum = 125ms, Average = 107ms

rokntroll

join:2007-01-14
Columbus, PA


Agree w/t_flight,This with Millenicom drivers and dial-up connection

Bamboozled

@myvzw.com

Hello everyone,

I too had Millenicom service with the Franklin CDU-680 modem (supplied by Millenicom). I work from home and when I attempted to connect to the Millenicom service, no service available. I then talked to B... at tech support and was told by him " There is a long list of customers who had the cellular line they were using dropped". From that point on the VM messages I had left with billing and tech support at Millenicom were never returned.

I think it is very poor customer service, on Millenicom's part, to not give any notice to their customers regarding the impending drop of their service.

I talked with J... at Millenicom in August and was told they were seeking a new cellular provider to partner with them. So, it seems they had plenty of notice that this would occur.

After this experience, I called Verizon, established service and received a new Novatel USB727 modem. The Novatel modem outperforms the Franklin CDU-680 modem hands down. I currently receive approximately 2 Mbps downstream and 586 Kbps upstream. Needless to say I am very pleased.

To anyone interested, I strongly suggest getting the Verizon plan for the same $59.99
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