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HungryWkidsAtXmas

@anonymizer.com
 reply to Anon
Re: Anyone have any job opportunities for Hungry...

Thank you to the one who asked for help for me, because I and others can really use it. That job isn't in my state (I was a support person, not a Tech), so any other ideas, would be great.

Merry Christmas!


Raybro
VIP
join:2000-11-04
Back home

reply to Anon
Re: The Bad News keeps coming....

Covad and Northpoint both could have claimed the money owed to them by dead beat ISP's in there 3rd quarter reports if they wanted to. They chose to be honest about it and face the fact that these ISP's were going to go under. Maybe Rhythms just had wishfull thinking in the matter.

Anon
 reply to reseller
haha. hope they fire you. i'm sure they liked the comment about how you "built" the company you work for. why aren't you in a higher position?


Air WAV

join:2000-09-16
Saint Louis, MO

reply to Faithful
Re: Zyan is the Worst

said by Faithful:
Zyan is the worst company I have ever worked with. They have great sales pitches, but can never keep their end of the bargain. Their tech support people are extremely rude and have poor attitudes. The salespersons resemble sharks who have lost shark dentures, big bite but poor taste. Death to Zyan and its followers.

Come on keep the faith ...


Faithful

@ca.pub

 reply to bandwidthlost
Zyan is the worst company I have ever worked with. They have great sales pitches, but can never keep their end of the bargain. Their tech support people are extremely rude and have poor attitudes. The salespersons resemble sharks who have lost shark dentures, big bite but poor taste. Death to Zyan and its followers.

Brian D9

join:2000-02-26
Camp Hill, PA
reply to chris
Re: The Bad News keeps coming....

Perhaps in the wonderful world of fast food.

Anon
reply to Anon
Re: Anyone have any job opportunities for Hungry...

at www.futurenet.net we are hiring qualified DSL tech support agents, billing reps, inside sales reps, and field sales representatives. We are currently hiring for our Sherman Oaks, CA office. If interested email a resume to jobs@futurenet.net

Anon
 reply to Anon
Re: The Bad News keeps coming....

oh, that's in response to your first post, MINDWARP. or shall i call you pathetically repressed by anger, with nothing better to do? i think you may just be mad that it's still taking you the whole day to download the movie with the girl performing on the donkey. hey, i've got news for you.... they don't just play with donkey's anymore.

Anon
 reply to Anon
with intelligence at mind (or not, in your case), it's "an intelligent one," and not "a intelligent one." that's grammar lesson #1. aside from that, you can eat my toejams. if you like the taste, i've got some other stuff you can eat as well. let me know if you're interested. have a great day!

Anon
 reply to DigitalDan
My question is how Covad and Northpoint had to report these Troubled ISP's. Yet Rhythms has remained silent. I know for a fact that flashcom is a huge partner for the smaller Rhythms. Why have they not released anything.

Anon
 reply to Anon
mindwarp

If you were half the system administrator you say you are, then you would know that Isaac is the stupidest tech you could ever speak with. He can't even tell the difference between a crossover and a straight cable or their application in computer connectivity, much less about DSL connectivity to your network. I just thought you should know that before you open your mouth. In the future make sure that you actually know what you are talking about.

Anon

 reply to HungryWKidsAtXmas
Anyone have any job opportunities for Hungry...

HungryWKidsAtXmas and others like him need some help.

I would like to send an open message out to eveyone who frequents DSLR. If you have any job opportunities, employment agency tips or any type of assistance
(even toys for the kids), please post it here.

We cannot let people suffer during the Christmas holidays.

Anon

 reply to HungryWKidsAtXmas
Re: The Bad News keeps coming....

Hey Hungry - I know it's only been a day but do you have something on the table (either another opportunity or food for your kids)? If not, email me at dsc@zyan.net and I'll see what I can do for you. I'm a former BAE who resigned when I saw the writing on the wall a few weeks back.

Anon
 reply to Anon
Very cool of you to own up to slamming everyone at Zyan and retracting that every individual there was not intelligent. As a former BAE (sales rep) at Zyan (I resigned 2 weeks before the carnage), I encountered many intelligent, competent and caring people at the company. There were however, people of the opposite characteristics. What irritated me the most about working with some of these people and their managers was that they were not held accountable for their actions or rather the lack of action. As a sales rep, if I had accounts cancel, my accountability showed up as a chargeback to my paycheck. Thank goodness I only had a few chargebacks primarily due to lengthy installations that were even beyond Zyan (Telco & CLEC issues) control. Even then, it was food on the table for my family that was lost. I never got to speak to or had the opportunity to get to know top management at the company so it's challenging to know what's on their minds. As with any company, Zyan and other DSL ISPs strive to provide a service that is in demand. Unfortunately, like other Internet only companies that grew too fast and lacked cost controls, profitability went out the window and the market has reflected that. Who loses the most from this? Investors. For the most part, I don't feel sorry for them. From what I know, most are wealthy individuals or companies that knew they could gain or lose on their investment. I went into the company with my eyes and ears wide open and knew what I was getting into. We sold and spoke based on what we were given from above. However, there came a point in my mind that what was coming from above no longer made business sense and prompted me to seek other opportunities. I've started my own company (thank goodness it doesn't rely exclusively on the Internet)and also landed a lucrative position with a fitness and nutrition company so that I can still earn a living and help people with their lives - not just their connectivity. There were a lot of valuable lessons learned at Zyan that I take going forward and hope not to make in my own endeavors. As a techie I would watch your back too where you are. Who knows how this fallout will affect you. Keep being cool and keep moving on !!!
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movingon


reseller

@advdata.net

reply to reseller
I was just contacted by the ISP I work for regarding my earlier comments (2000-11-28-13:51:00 EDT). I was informed that I do not
have permission to represent my ISP in any way. Any comment made was from personal experience and I was wrong in sharing them. I
am sure that any person working in the DSL industry has frustrations. I do however want it noted that my comments were in
defense of a personal friend whose posting although may have been harsh were rebutted by Zyan employees in a less than
professional manner as well. It would probably do us all well to concentrate on repairing what problems exist with DSL and not
just engage is a pissing match on this message board.

Anon
reply to Zyanite
I totally understand where you are comming from,
and you sound very reasonable and intelligent. Unfortunately, you are not one of the people
who on a daily basis I had to talk to on the
phone. So I will make a retraction, that I do feel bad
for those Zyan employees who were hard-working, and were caught by suprise by this. For those of you who were involved with contract violations, and the technicians who I had to explain how dsl works .. I guess its
Christmas, I just hope that in business I never
hear from you ever again.

[text was edited by author 2000-11-28 16:23:02]


Mind

@zyan.com

 reply to Anon
Mind warped, you work for a reseller, a reseller that is a down stream partner of Zyan. Sh!t flows downstream! If you haven't figured it out yet that you are next. I wouldn't be talking so much trash my friend. Karma is a powerful thing!

Oh, and by the way, I just checked, Livonia, Michigan has 2 pet shops and 1 ISP... working out of a pet shop!


Zyanite

@zyan.c


reply to Anon
Hey Mindwarp.

I just want to offer you a counterpoint. It's true that not all of Zyan's employees were intellectually superior to the general population. However, for the most part, they were all hard-working, dedicated people who, like those in any other startup, put in 60-80 hour weeks, and forsook friends and family to make Zyan work.

I know you don't mean it when you hope that Zyan's employees have a horrible Christmas. None of them would wish it upon you.

For the record, I hope you take this opportunity to note that you have just talked to an intelligent Zyan employee. Perhaps not all of us have your "mental strength" but perhaps what they lack in mind, they make up for in heart and spirit.

Bandwidthlost has the right tack: regardless of whether you're still with Zyan as an employee or a reseller, or if you're an ex-employee or former reseller, having to lose your job during the holidays stinks. My sympathies to all my friends and former coworkers. I wish you all well.

Anon
reply to mind
Unfortunately, even though you
have multiple ignorant assumptions,
which I would expect from a Zyan
employee, I will end this with this: I still
have a job. We are still in business.
Just to clear one more thing up, I work primarily on Slackware, not
anything Microsoft related.

[text was edited by author 2000-11-28 16:17:42]


reseller

@advdata.net

reply to mind
Actually the person who posted the remark above about all the techs sucking is true. They know as much about networking as my grandma. The individual above works for a Zyan reseller just like I do. I am also a systems administrator. The excuses that the Zyan techs gave were non-tecnical excuses. I have been on the phone countless times... not just a few times AS HAS EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS A ZYAN RESELLER. You know its true. Your blatant disregard and denial of this problem is probably one of the HUNDREDS OF REASONS WHY ZYAN SUCKS AND HAS FAILED. I dont wish anyone harm or suffering though and i think the statements of the above individual were uncalled for. Im not just an mcse either. I am cisco certified and built the ISP that I work for so I do know what I am talking about. The individual above is also a well certified network engineer not just an mcse... they are usually stupid... usually.
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