ckwhy
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|  [Other] 10Mbps devices - obsolete?
I'm looking at purchasing some 10Mbps-only devices. I know they work with 10/100/1000 Mbps switches.
How soon do you think these devices will be phased out/obsolete, or am I safe with these for the next 5 years?
Do you know of any new routers/switches that doesn't support 10Mbps anymore? |
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broccoli
join:2007-11-29
Portland, OR
| There were single-speed (100 Mbit/s) switches in the early days, but those switches are obsolete (haven't come across one ever, and no new ones are made), not 10BASE-T. If the device does not need the speed, why does it matter whether the interface is 10 Mbit/s or 1 Gbit/s? |
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Bink
join:2006-05-14
Denver, CO | reply to ckwhy
With a manageable device you can always lock a port to a lower speed. |
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ckwhy
@rr.com
| reply to ckwhy
Yea, we have that right now but we're plannnin to upgrade the servers and switches eventually. If the general direction of new switches are not going to support 10Mbps, then I will think about investing on more expensive 100Mbps-capable devices, although I doubt we'll ever use that kind of bandwidth. |
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Cabal
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join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA
| said by ckwhy :
If the general direction of new switches are not going to support 10Mbps, Very unlikely. There are too many legacy devices out there, especially in businesses, and it doesn't cost anything significant in hardware or efficiency to support the lower speeds.
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utahluge
join:2004-10-14
Draper, UT
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| reply to ckwhy
said by ckwhy :
Do you know of any new routers/switches that doesn't support 10Mbps anymore? Depends on what class of equipment your talking about. Home or SOHO gear will support 10Mbps for a very long time. This is because (as prev. stated) there is a lot of equipment out there that will need support for it (think: printers).
Now, it will be different if you talking about enterprise or core networking. Sure some will still be making support for 10Mbps but don't count on it. Manufacturers know that if you are placing high-end systems on your network, you won't be putting them at 10Mbps. It used to be that core-network switches would only support 100Mbps/1Gps but now we are seeing that real core-networking equipment will only support 1Gbps/10Gbps. When a manufacturer can eliminate backwards support (10Mbps/100Mbps) and focus on faster speeds, they are able to deliver a better product.
When it comes down to it, buy for the future and not for today. I would bet that within the next few months you will need to transfer files on that 10Mbps network and after waiting a long time, you will wish you bought faster. If you invest in the faster gear, you will be able to "recycle" that gear when the time comes to purchase even faster gear than what you bought in the first place. By recycle, I mean put the slow equipment like printers, low impact servers, and people who annoy you on them so its less cost in the future too.
Now, if you are getting this equipment for a screaming deal. Then I say go for it! There is nothing better than getting a great deal. That way you will be able to use the extra budget money for something worth while (think raid arrays, etc. ; data security). |
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tschmidt
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join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
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| reply to ckwhy
said by ckwhy :
If the general direction of new switches are not going to support 10Mbps, then I will think about investing on more expensive 100Mbps-capable devices, although I doubt we'll ever use that kind of bandwidth.
10 Mbps UTP Ethernet will be around for a long time for the simple reason it does not cost extra to support but may result in a lost sale if backward compatibility is removed.
/tom |
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puzz1ed
join:2005-02-20
Markham, ON | reply to ckwhy
10Mbps support will be around as long as ethernet is around just like all serial ports supported 300 baud. |
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utahluge
join:2004-10-14
Draper, UT
·Comcast
| reply to tschmidt
said by tschmidt  :10 Mbps UTP Ethernet will be around for a long time for the simple reason it does not cost extra to support but may result in a lost sale if backward compatibility is removed. When was the last time you looked at networking equipment above SOHO products? |
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tschmidt
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Milford, NH
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1 edit | said by utahluge :When was the last time you looked at networking equipment above SOHO products? What gear do you have in mind? 10 Mbps support seems pretty common but then I have not done an exhaustive search.
If anything commercial space will be last bastion of 10 Mbps Ethernet, heck some companies are still using Thinwire.
/tom |
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jimbopalmer
Tsar of all the Rushers
join:2008-06-02
Greenwood, MS
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| reply to ckwhy
It does not matter how 'enterprise' my network is all end devices are going to have 10 meg support.
All of my SCADA devices, they run at 10 meg. All my Process Instrumentation, it runs at 10/half. Well monitoring? 802.11b, get over it. I even have met lab equipment with only BNC 10 meg ethernet.
Yes, if your ethernet only has PCs, a case could be made for 100/full as the slowest speed, but even printers may well only support higher speed than 10 meg solely for compatibility, not because they can actually make more than 10 million dots per second (if they are over 20 pages per minute, then 100 meg may help speed up the printer)
In fact, an enterprise network may have MORE need for 10 meg compatibility than a home network. Less desire to have any of the switches 10 meg, but a higher ratio of non-PC devices.
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