  tertech
join:2008-04-12 Ottawa, ON
| reply to Bicephale Re: Yet Another Modem Statistics tool
said by Bicephale :Hi TerTech, Excellent! I've put my ST516v6 (FW v6.2.29.2) on-line just a few minutes ago and it happens i needed an alternative to the "Diagnosis" item of 'DMT' (which is a greyed out option if using this FirmWare). I wished to compare my MoDems for a very long time, now i'm sure Santa exists!  My plan is to start an evaluation by collecting a high-resolution (15 sec.) long-term sample under "Linear" mode and with the "Follow current time" feature enabled (i presume the later option has to do with time-slice round-up synchronisation). I can't wait to see the curve averaging function in action since it's specific to 'DSL_StatScope' and no other 3rd-party tool did that until nowbut i'm patient and these tests take time. You can bet i'll be back to share my observations, it brings us to mid-December or so but i'll be there! Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas Well, I hope you can put this program to good use. I did a lot of testing myself, but I am interested to hear any problems you may encounter with your long term captures. It's only version 1.0, so I don't expect it to be perfect.
Just to clarify... the "follow current time" option simply automatically scrolls the graphical display so that the most recent capture is always visible, that's all.
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  Bicephale
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1 edit |  DSL_StatScope v1.0 - CRC vs HEC & FEC |
Hi TerTech,
My test only starts at midnight so i can still play around with 'DSL_StatScope v1.0' a bit, after that i'll leave it alone doing it's job.

Here are my preliminary observations, something may very well have slept through... Well, you've brought the SpeedTouch owners a unique piece of work and i can only think of cosmetic aspects.
•The CRC dots being critical they should have priority over the HEC and FEC dots (in this order) which are presently masking it. See my animated .GIF from above. This was captured using the [Load] option (playback) after the log file was copied to my everyday machine.
•When trying to play back a tiny log file with only a few time-slice records nothing happened and there was no error message to explain why but maybe i was supposed to restart 'DSS' 1st; i even thought it was about 8.3 DOS filenames.
•You can make the window's width two characters less using "DS" (DownStream) instead of "D/L" (DownLoad) and "US" (UpStream) instead of "U/L" (UpLoad).
•This should have been called v1.25 or something: some persons won't even try it when it's a first release. I say the loss is theirs, though!
•Perhaps i didn't find it but there should be a hidden "easter egg" with Santa's face in it somewhere!...
In any case, thank you for this precious opportunity!

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I was hungry late last night so i started cooking something to eat (the CRC burst did confirm it).
Now, imagine if i conducted such a test with help from the powerful averaging feature for a week!
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  Bicephale
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| reply to tertech Oh, i almost forgot...
One question about reading aberrations: 'DMT' in "Diagnosis" mode often generates very large numbers during transitions which would totally offset a curve's range. I've been working with 'GNUmeric' SpreadSheets lately and my solution to that problem was to "clip" those events to a negligible negative fraction if negative or what appears to be the curve's normal peek, my goal being to conserve as much details as possible.
I'm wondering how you dealt with that relatively to the log files (the display itself already has two customisable fields for the upper/lower limits).
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  tertech
join:2008-04-12 Ottawa, ON
| reply to Bicephale said by Bicephale :Hi TerTech, •The CRC dots being critical they should have priority over the HEC and FEC dots (in this order) which are presently masking it. See my animated .GIF from above. This was captured using the [ Load] option (playback) after the log file was copied to my everyday machine. O.K makes sense. I usually just enable one error stat at a time because it is too crowded to see everything.
•When trying to play back a tiny log file with only a few time-slice records nothing happened and there was no error message to explain why but maybe i was supposed to restart 'DSS' 1st; i even thought it was about 8.3 DOS filenames.
The intent was that either you were doing a Telnet capture or playing back a file. I prevent a file being loaded when a Telnet session is active; I thought I made it allow a file load after a Telnet session was stopped. It looks like it doesn't allow a file load if a Telnet session had been run, even if it was stopped. You will have to restart the program to load a file if you had a Telnet session.
•You can make the window's width two characters less using "DS" (DownStream) instead of "D/L" (DownLoad) and "US" (UpStream) instead of "U/L" (UpLoad).filenames.
It's UpLink and DownLink ( I'm a satellite guy ). You're right though about giving more room to the U/L SNRM and D/L SNRM labels.
•This should have been called v1.25 or something: some persons won't even try it when it's a first release. I say the loss is theirs, though!
It's the first release. If I counted every version that I didn't release it would be like v25. The first number is a major release and will increment with new features or some incompatibility with previous releases. The second number is a minor release with just cosmetic changes that is still compatible with previous versions of the same major release number. For example if the log file format changed that would need a new major release number.
•Perhaps i didn't find it but there should be a hidden "easter egg" with Santa's face in it somewhere!...
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  tertech
join:2008-04-12 Ottawa, ON
| reply to Bicephale said by Bicephale :Oh, i almost forgot... One question about reading aberrations: 'DMT' in "Diagnosis" mode often generates very large numbers during transitions which would totally offset a curve's range. I've been working with 'GNUmeric' SpreadSheets lately and my solution to that problem was to "clip" those events to a negligible negative fraction if negative or what appears to be the curve's normal peek, my goal being to conserve as much details as possible. I'm wondering how you dealt with that relatively to the log files (the display itself already has two customisable fields for the upper/lower limits). I'm not sure what situation you're referring to. IM me with details please. |
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  Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
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| Hi TerTech,
I'll make contact shortly. In the meantime, this is a compatibility chart i built after wondering if the log file format may allow me to playback logs from other brands/models using 'DMT' Diagnosis mode:
.-----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------. | 'DSS v1.0' | 'DMT v7.35' | 'DMT v9.01' | 'DMT v2.20' | | Thomson | Thomson | Siemens | GNet | | ST5x6 | ST5x6 | SS4200 | BB0060B/GBB2060-Xi | +-----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------+ | | # DMT Diagnosis... | # DMT Diagnosis... | # DMT Diagnosis... | | | # creation date... | # creation date... | # creation date... | | | Tones=255 Separator=, | Tones=255 Separator=, | Tones=255 Separator=, | +-----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------+ | Time,Up Rate... | Time,USrate,DSrate... | Time,USrate,DSrate... | Time,USrate,DSrate... | | Up Rate | USrate | USrate | USrate | | Up SNRM | USsnr | | USsnr | | Dn Rate | DSrate | DSrate | DSrate | | Dn SNRM | DSsnr | DSsnr | DSsnr | | Rx FEC | rxFEC | | rxFEC | | Rx CRC | rxCRC | rxCRC | rxCRC | | Rx HEC | rxHEC | rxHEC | | | Tx FEC | txFEC | | txFEC | | Tx CRC | txCRC | txCRC | txCRC | | Tx HEC | txHEC | txHEC | | +-----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------+ | Rx FEC/s | | | | | Rx CRC/s | | | | | Rx HEC/s | | | | | Tx FEC/s | | | | | Tx CRC/s | | | | | Tx HEC/s | | | | | Index | | | | | Con | | | | `-----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------'
I haven't tried anything yet and i'm not sure what to do with the last section (N.B.: i rearanged the sequence to render this table easier to read)... If 'DSL_StatScope v1.0' accepts log files missing the "/s" data then long-term records averaging may be available even for devices not directly supported!
The 'DMT' log file format allows comments and some definitions in the header, maybe it would be a good idea in an eventual future to exploit these features.
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  Bicephale
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| reply to tertech
 DMT Diagnosis Aberrations |
Hi again,
About aberrations, finally it's simpler for me just to post an illustration right here.
This graphic was generated using 'GNUmeric' to process a log file generated by 'DMT' run in "Diagnosis" mode. The negative values are resulting from a disconnection (zero SNR), it is meaningless information but those numbers are so large everything else will vanish into the baseline if it's not corrected manually...
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  Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
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| Oups! TerTech, i just realized these negative values don't exist yet in the log files: they're the result of calculations done later instead...
Sorry to bother!
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