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tertech

join:2008-04-12
Ottawa, ON

reply to Bicephale

Re: Yet Another Modem Statistics tool

said by Bicephale:

Hi TerTech,

Excellent! I've put my ST516v6 (FW v6.2.29.2)
on-line just a few minutes ago and it happens
i needed an alternative to the "Diagnosis" item
of 'DMT' (which is a greyed out option if using
this FirmWare). I wished to compare my MoDems
for a very long time, now i'm sure Santa exists!



My plan is to start an evaluation by collecting a
high-resolution (15 sec.) long-term sample under
"Linear" mode and with the "Follow current time"
feature enabled (i presume the later option has
to do with time-slice round-up synchronisation).

I can't wait to see the curve averaging function
in action since it's specific to 'DSL_StatScope'
and no other 3rd-party tool did that until now
but i'm patient and these tests take time. You
can bet i'll be back to share my observations, it
brings us to mid-December or so but i'll be there!


Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas Well, I hope you can put this program to good use. I did a lot of testing myself, but I am interested to hear any problems you may encounter with your long term captures. It's only version 1.0, so I don't expect it to be perfect.

Just to clarify... the "follow current time" option simply automatically scrolls the graphical display so that the most recent capture is always visible, that's all.

Enjoy


Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
kudos:3

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DSL_StatScope v1.0 - CRC vs HEC & FEC
Hi TerTech,

My test only starts at midnight so i can still
play around with 'DSL_StatScope v1.0' a bit,
after that i'll leave it alone doing it's job.



Here are my preliminary observations, something
may very well have slept through... Well, you've
brought the SpeedTouch owners a unique piece
of work and i can only think of cosmetic aspects.

 •The CRC dots being critical they should have
   priority over the HEC and FEC dots (in this
   order) which are presently masking it. See my
   animated .GIF from above. This was captured
   using the [Load] option (playback) after the
   log file was copied to my everyday machine.

 •When trying to play back a tiny log file with
   only a few time-slice records nothing happened
   and there was no error message to explain why
   but maybe i was supposed to restart 'DSS' 1st;
   i even thought it was about 8.3 DOS filenames.

 •You can make the window's width two characters
   less using "DS" (DownStream) instead of "D/L"
   (DownLoad) and "US" (UpStream) instead of "U/L"
   (UpLoad).

 •This should have been called v1.25 or something:
   some persons won't even try it when it's a first
   release. I say the loss is theirs, though!

 •Perhaps i didn't find it but there should be a hidden
   "easter egg" with Santa's face in it somewhere!...

In any case, thank you for this precious opportunity!






Note:

I was hungry late last night so i started cooking
something to eat (the CRC burst did confirm it).

Now, imagine if i conducted such a test with help
from the powerful averaging feature for a week!



Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
kudos:3

reply to tertech
Oh, i almost forgot...

One question about reading aberrations: 'DMT'
in "Diagnosis" mode often generates very large
numbers during transitions which would totally
offset a curve's range. I've been working with
'GNUmeric' SpreadSheets lately and my solution
to that problem was to "clip" those events to a
negligible negative fraction if negative or what
appears to be the curve's normal peek, my goal
being to conserve as much details as possible.

I'm wondering how you dealt with that relatively
to the log files (the display itself already has two
customisable fields for the upper/lower limits).



tertech

join:2008-04-12
Ottawa, ON

reply to Bicephale

said by Bicephale:

Hi TerTech,

 •The CRC dots being critical they should have
   priority over the HEC and FEC dots (in this
   order) which are presently masking it. See my
   animated .GIF from above. This was captured
   using the [Load] option (playback) after the
   log file was copied to my everyday machine.
O.K makes sense. I usually just enable one error stat at a time because it is too crowded to see everything.

 •When trying to play back a tiny log file with
   only a few time-slice records nothing happened
   and there was no error message to explain why
   but maybe i was supposed to restart 'DSS' 1st;
   i even thought it was about 8.3 DOS filenames.
The intent was that either you were doing a Telnet capture or playing back a file. I prevent a file being loaded when a Telnet session is active; I thought I made it allow a file load after a Telnet session was stopped. It looks like it doesn't allow a file load if a Telnet session had been run, even if it was stopped. You will have to restart the program to load a file if you had a Telnet session.

 •You can make the window's width two characters
   less using "DS" (DownStream) instead of "D/L"
   (DownLoad) and "US" (UpStream) instead of "U/L"
   (UpLoad).filenames.
It's UpLink and DownLink ( I'm a satellite guy ). You're right though about giving more room to the U/L SNRM and D/L SNRM labels.

 •This should have been called v1.25 or something:
   some persons won't even try it when it's a first
   release. I say the loss is theirs, though!
It's the first release. If I counted every version that I didn't release it would be like v25. The first number is a major release and will increment with new features or some incompatibility with previous releases. The second number is a minor release with just cosmetic changes that is still compatible with previous versions of the same major release number. For example if the log file format changed that would need a new major release number.

 •Perhaps i didn't find it but there should be a hidden
   "easter egg" with Santa's face in it somewhere!...
Keep looking.


tertech

join:2008-04-12
Ottawa, ON

reply to Bicephale

said by Bicephale:

Oh, i almost forgot...

One question about reading aberrations: 'DMT'
in "Diagnosis" mode often generates very large
numbers during transitions which would totally
offset a curve's range. I've been working with
'GNUmeric' SpreadSheets lately and my solution
to that problem was to "clip" those events to a
negligible negative fraction if negative or what
appears to be the curve's normal peek, my goal
being to conserve as much details as possible.

I'm wondering how you dealt with that relatively
to the log files (the display itself already has two
customisable fields for the upper/lower limits).


I'm not sure what situation you're referring to. IM me with details please.


Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
kudos:3

Hi TerTech,

I'll make contact shortly. In the meantime, this is
a compatibility chart i built after wondering if the
log file format may allow me to playback logs from
other brands/models using 'DMT' Diagnosis mode:

.-----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------.
|      'DSS v1.0' |             'DMT v7.35' |           'DMT v9.01' |            'DMT v2.20' |
|         Thomson |                 Thomson |               Siemens |                   GNet |
|           ST5x6 |                   ST5x6 |                SS4200 |     BB0060B/GBB2060-Xi |
+-----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------+
|                 |      # DMT Diagnosis... |    # DMT Diagnosis... |     # DMT Diagnosis... |
|                 |      # creation date... |    # creation date... |     # creation date... |
|                 |  Tones=255 Separator=,  | Tones=255 Separator=, |  Tones=255 Separator=, |
+-----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------+
| Time,Up Rate... |   Time,USrate,DSrate... | Time,USrate,DSrate... |  Time,USrate,DSrate... |
|         Up Rate |                  USrate |                USrate |                 USrate |
|         Up SNRM |                   USsnr |                       |                  USsnr |
|         Dn Rate |                  DSrate |                DSrate |                 DSrate |
|         Dn SNRM |                   DSsnr |                 DSsnr |                  DSsnr |
|          Rx FEC |                   rxFEC |                       |                  rxFEC |
|          Rx CRC |                   rxCRC |                 rxCRC |                  rxCRC |
|          Rx HEC |                   rxHEC |                 rxHEC |                        |
|          Tx FEC |                   txFEC |                       |                  txFEC |
|          Tx CRC |                   txCRC |                 txCRC |                  txCRC |
|          Tx HEC |                   txHEC |                 txHEC |                        |
+-----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------+
|        Rx FEC/s |                         |                       |                        |
|        Rx CRC/s |                         |                       |                        |
|        Rx HEC/s |                         |                       |                        |
|        Tx FEC/s |                         |                       |                        |
|        Tx CRC/s |                         |                       |                        |
|        Tx HEC/s |                         |                       |                        |
|           Index |                         |                       |                        |
|             Con |                         |                       |                        |
`-----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------+------------------------'


I haven't tried anything yet and i'm not sure what
to do with the last section (N.B.: i rearanged the
sequence to render this table easier to read)... If
'DSL_StatScope v1.0' accepts log files missing the
"/s" data then long-term records averaging may be
available even for devices not directly supported!

The 'DMT' log file format allows comments and some
definitions in the header, maybe it would be a good
idea in an eventual future to exploit these features.



Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
kudos:3

reply to tertech


DMT Diagnosis Aberrations
Hi again,

About aberrations, finally it's simpler for
me just to post an illustration right here.

This graphic was generated using 'GNUmeric'
to process a log file generated by 'DMT' run
in "Diagnosis" mode. The negative values are
resulting from a disconnection (zero SNR), it
is meaningless information but those numbers
are so large everything else will vanish into
the baseline if it's not corrected manually...



Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
kudos:3

Oups! TerTech, i just realized these negative
values don't exist yet in the log files: they're
the result of calculations done later instead...

Sorry to bother!


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