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TKJunkMail
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 Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

Wikipedia should just delete the album cover from the article if indeed it is a naked child portrayed sexually, which would be against all international laws on child pornography. Delete the pic and the problem goes away.


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Wikipedia should just delete the album cover from the article if indeed it is a naked child portrayed sexually, which would be against all international laws on child pornography. Delete the pic and the problem goes away.
I think this one falls under the "art" protection. Even if the art was used to create controversy.

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said by Steimes See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Wikipedia should just delete the album cover from the article if indeed it is a naked child portrayed sexually, which would be against all international laws on child pornography. Delete the pic and the problem goes away.
I think this one falls under the "art" protection. Even if the art was used to create controversy.

But that is the excuse used by all child pornography purveyors - that it is art and should be ok.
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But that is the excuse of all closet fascists, that art which bothers their delicate sensibilities should be banned or thrown in a pile and burned.


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On a side note, that girl's got to be in her mid 40's by now.......
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But that is the excuse of all closet fascists, that art which bothers their delicate sensibilities should be banned or thrown in a pile and burned.
So you defend child pornography - as long as it hides under the cover of being art?


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Yeah TK. AND the murder of puppies.


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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

But that is the excuse of all closet fascists, that art which bothers their delicate sensibilities should be banned or thrown in a pile and burned.
So you defend child pornography?
Yeah. Child pornography is awesome.

Socialism is great too. Free socialist CP for all!

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If? Did you even look at the links referenced in the article before posting?


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

So you defend child pornography - as long as it hides under the cover of being art?
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Yeah TK. AND the murder of puppies.
well, in that warped neo-con logic, you are either with him (and the *good* side), or with the terrorists (or whichever group is *not* the good side).

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]But that is the excuse used by all child pornography purveyors - that it is art and should be ok.
No. Porn is porn. If you look at the cover, yes, it's controversial, and yes, some will find it offensive, but it's definitely art, and not porn.
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Yup. Apparently she was asked about this image about fifteen years ago, and was cool with it.


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There was a huge flame war about this image a few months back. The upshot was that:

1) Wikipedia must comply with local laws to remove illegal content.
2) Wikipedia must not remove content for being legal but in bad taste, or every special interest group on the planet will have a field day.
3) Wikipedia, not being a law firm or a state, has no real way of telling whether something's illegal beyond the blatantly obvious cases.
4) This cover has been around for the last thirty years without being prosecuted, making it a not blatantly obvious case.

If you have any ideas on where to go from here, I'm all ears.


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On a side note, that girl's got to be in her mid 40's by now.......
If you read the wikipedia article, the woman who was the girl in the photo is fine with it.
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said by djrobx See Profile :

said by N3OGH See Profile :

On a side note, that girl's got to be in her mid 40's by now.......
If you read the wikipedia article, the woman who was the girl in the photo is fine with it.
Legally, that is completely irrelevant.
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But the question is the naked child being portrayed sexually?

When I look at the pic I see nothing sexual about it. There is no exposed genitalia. There is no suggestive motions or facial expressions being performed by the child at the time of the shooting of the picture.

Now with that said, I do think the original album cover was done in poor taste. But you can blame the record company for that one. It was their idea, not the band. The record company even said they will go to jail over it. According to the band, the album cover had nothing to do with the song.
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Hey, lets ban AllMusic.com while we are at it.

»allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sq···xqq5ld6e

Guess Clapton, Windwood and Baker are just too old school to matter.

That is the reason we have a judicial system as least in the US to keep extremists from seeing everything as porn.

Yes it is Art. No it's not sexual.

Like I always said, if you like strict rules, there are still countries where you can immigrate to that will be glad to ban your problems.
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I wasn't speaking of the legality of it. You for all the people here should know damn well if anyone knows the legality of such issues, it would be me.

I was simply pointing out an interesting fact that others may not have touched on....
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