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DarkLogix
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reply to swhitney2003

Re: what is the point of 50Mbps with a 250gb cap they should use

well thats just lame you pay more and get only responsiveness

how about this you can put gas in your car and pay taxes and you may only drive 200miles a month

oh well they'll learn someday how truely lame the CAPs are


swhitney2003
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Your analogy makes no sense. Does not relate to this at all. Having a ferrari and an aveo is a better comparison. You can get to work a lot faster (neglecting speed limits) in the ferrari, but you still travel the same distance to and from work every day. Your MILAGE (gigabytes) remains the same, but speed changed.

And I'm sure they are really worried about these truly lame caps. They take off the heavy hitters of the subscriber base, make more money off them, and the overall crowd is actually unaffected. Yea, they are in a horrible position with them. Considering almost every other provider has caps, Comcast has been one of the most generous in terms of available bandwidth.


dadkins
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reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix:

well thats just lame you pay more and get only responsiveness

how about this you can put gas in your car and pay taxes and you may only drive 200miles a month

oh well they'll learn someday how truely lame the CAPs are
That would be similar to metered billing.
Use as much as you want and pay accordingly.
Drive til you drop if you will...

I welcome something like this - my bill would probably be less than $10 per month!
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swhitney2003
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said by dadkins:

I welcome something like this - my bill would probably be less than $10 per month!
One can only hope that becomes the case. The majority of households probably use about the same as you (30GB). I would think Comcast would price accordingly so that they made the same or more off of customers if a change happened. Also a flat rate of $10 is probably going to be charged just for a connection, then on top of the the throughput used. We can dream, right? If this model ever came around I would surely cut back drastically on my downloading.


dadkins
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Bring it! LOL!

From what Comcast has reported, 2-3GB per month is the average use.
This is an average of nearly 15million customers.
Some more, but not all that many - apparently!

250GB - I can't even think of anything I would want to download that would get me to *HALF* of that in a month!

Yeah, probably $10 for the connection and then per-GB would be their scheme.
Still... not only would my connection quality piss off people, I would be able to irk 'em with my monthly bill!
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DarkLogix
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reply to swhitney2003
your not getting it

the cap is like the gov or who ever saying you may not drive more than X and if you do than bam

(ya they have a better cap than most but not as good as no cap)
if you follow the sheep and are ok with it then it'll go down hill you just say well thats ok thats fine then one day you open your eyes and say what happened

ya theyre not hurting yet but as D3 getts spread more and more the people that use over 250 will grow and grow

your seeing how it could affect you now not what this means could happen down the road


DarkLogix
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reply to dadkins
it would (based on whats happened) be more like this
Speed tire price + Usage Price + Peak hours usage
so
you have your $50 for 16/2 + your $10 per 10gig + anothe $0 per Peak 10GB + non-3play service $30penalty + 20 for CDV

with peak hours not know to you
so 30GB/month
50+30+30+30+20
$160 just for a little 30GB you say you use
you really want that

the for 50/10
150+30+30+30+20+(extra channels used penalty)50
so 310


badtrip
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reply to dadkins
said by dadkins:

From what Comcast has reported, 2-3GB per month is the average use.
This is an average of nearly 15million customers.
Some more, but not all that many - apparently!
I think the median will be a bit more telling than the mean for bandwidth usage. A few thousand folks who only check email and do light browsing can really push the mean down. On the flip side a few thousand folks DLing hundreds of gigs/mo can really inflate the mean as well.


dadkins
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reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix:

it would (based on whats happened) be more like this
Speed tire price + Usage Price + Peak hours usage
so
you have your $50 for 16/2 + your $10 per 10gig + anothe $0 per Peak 10GB + non-3play service $30penalty + 20 for CDV

with peak hours not know to you
so 30GB/month
50+30+30+30+20
$160 just for a little 30GB you say you use
you really want that

the for 50/10
150+30+30+30+20+(extra channels used penalty)50
so 310
WTF?
Dude, that makes absolutely no sense.

Apply that same math/logic to someone like yourself who says 250GB isn't enough...
Several thou per month?
Either way friend, my bill will be considerably lower than... yours!
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Aozora

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reply to badtrip
said by badtrip:

said by dadkins:

From what Comcast has reported, 2-3GB per month is the average use.
This is an average of nearly 15million customers.
Some more, but not all that many - apparently!
I think the median will be a bit more telling than the mean for bandwidth usage. A few thousand folks who only check email and do light browsing can really push the mean down. On the flip side a few thousand folks DLing hundreds of gigs/mo can really inflate the mean as well.
I don't get why anyone would get HSI or any real fast speed for just browsing and e-mail checking. DSL is by far a better deal for these people because you can get a decent 1.5Mbps/384Kbps for light browsing for $15 a month and it would be perfect. Makes no sense to even pay Comcast $43+ for the same purpose

I am a heavy user. I do streaming videos, HD, online gaming, and etc. I really do have a need for Comcasts 6/1Mbps plan or higher unlike others.

Broadband is superior to dial up for browsing and e-mail but you do not need anything more than DSL for that. CHEAP DSL at that.

hottboiinnc
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what about those people that live to far for DSL? and what happens to those customers after the price goes up after their first 6 months to a year? or they move and no longer can get DSL. BOOM their back to Comcast or another cable provider most likely.

But after you factor in the price of a landline phone or even the price of dryline DSL you are about the same price with Comcast especially after fees and taxes.


DarkLogix
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reply to dadkins
the issue isn't that yours would be lower but that you are one more just going with it and will end up helping them hit you with an insane bill one day

maybe not this year but someday

its like cows to the slaughter
one cow sees another killed (booted/high monthly cost) and thinks oh that won't happen to me then the next and next untill that cow is the one getting it

you see others getting booted and think oh you don't use enough for that to happen to me

but one day it or something worse does

oh its just the top 1%
but the people that were the top 1% last year were already booted and now the ones that would have been only the top 10% are now the top 1%

and I pay $120 a month so I don't have a cap even though I know I won't hit it

as my Up+down is only 20GB a month (well I'll need to check to be sure (thats just my computer) so when they release a bandwidth meter for my service I'll see)


funchords
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reply to dadkins
said by dadkins:

From what Comcast has reported, 2-3GB per month is the average use.
They also said stuff like

"...only during periods of congestion..."
and "...we don't throttle any applications..."
and "...nobody has demonstrated otherwise..."


said by dadkins:

250GB - I can't even think of anything I would want to download that would get me to *HALF* of that in a month!
Me neither, that's the fun of it.... or it would have been.

If they were really as good as FIOS, they wouldn't need the caps or the 15-minute penalty boxes.
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badtrip
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reply to Aozora
I don't get why ppl would get fast internet to check email and light browsing, but they do, and that's exactly why I think a median usage data point is called for.


cork1958
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reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix:

well thats just lame you pay more and get only responsiveness
You hit the nail right on the head!!

Exactly why I'm still on Charters "slow" 5/512 plan. I get stuff fast enough, as my Charter connection is excellent. Can't see paying much over $40 a month for simply surfing the web. My life IS NOT in that much of a rush.
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funchords
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reply to badtrip
said by badtrip:

I don't get why ppl would get fast internet to check email and light browsing, but they do,
These are the same people who buy dual-core 3 GHz systems and a top-of-the-line graphics card to play Windows Solitaire.
and that's exactly why I think a median usage data point is called for.
And then those numbers will be funny.

I'm all for capitalism, which we don't have here because every address is only served by 1 or 2 providers. To bring back capitalism, we ought to treat these "last-mile" delivery systems as streets. Own and maintain them publicly and let all the Comcasts, Time Warners, Coxs, Verizons hook up and offer competing connectivity, television, phone, or whatever subscription service over them.

If Target owned the city streets, none of the roads would go to Walmart. But since the public owns the streets, we have Target, Walmart, K-mart, shopping malls, centers, and etc..


not really

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reply to swhitney2003
This analogy is ridiculous as well.

If I have 1 hour to use the internet a day, of course the speed dictates how much content I can pull. In that 1 hour, with more bandwidth, I'm pulling more content.

Over the course of the month, I will have far more bandwidth used in the same amount of computer usage. Pretty simple. I can download multiple movies in the time I download 1 currently.

Assuming that people will use the same amount of bandwidth regardless of their throughput is quite a stretch... I by no means teeter on the brink of the cap, but you have to be kidding that you don't think someone would not just queue up more downloads at once or get more in the time they use their computer.

Who cares about their lame caps? There will be a market for power users that will be tapped into regardless of it being comcast or not. Their futile attempts to limit how much I use netflix over their own on-demand streaming doesn't matter much if/when I switch to some other service. Of course this assumes that I can find something as fast for as cheap and as much.