SterlingJ85
Obama 2008
join:2000-11-19
Millville, NJ | Am I the only one
Who thinks this guy is a complete idiot?
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-Sterling |
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SteveCon
IBEW 2222 Boston, MA
Premium
join:2004-09-02
Burlington, MA | +1 |
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srobmw
join:2005-10-01
New Windsor, NY | +2 |
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DrModem
Premium
join:2006-10-19
USA | +3
Nobody's going to give up phone/internet unless they face starvation if they don't. |
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plusfoor
@sbcglobal.net | +4 |
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b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA | reply to SterlingJ85
Who's the bigger idiot?
This guy?
Or the people who read what he says and dump their stock causing these companies stocks to plummet? |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | reply to DrModem
+4
lets keep it going!!! |
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margaf77
join:2000-12-22
Bayonne, NJ | reply to SterlingJ85
said by SterlingJ85  :Who thinks this guy is a complete idiot? +1 |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| reply to DrModem
While I haven't read his report, I can say the following is true:
1. Many may not cancel wireless service, but may adjust their plans (i.e. cut out data or messaging plans, or move to a lower voice plan)
2. POTS lines are overpriced... they are going.
3. TV service (Uverse) and many services are expensive. Many may cut out these services if they deem them unnecessary, or cut the 'fluff' bundle. Eg. I 'can' get OTA of +40 channels here in SoCal, do I need TV from TWC or AT&T? I can get a Internet + VoIP package (or go wireless) and save.
4. Expansion - Wireless is nearing a limit we're nearing 200 million wireless in the US.- and I expect growth of new customers to slow.
I'd give up having a 6-18Mbps to replace with a 1.5-3Mbps if I was to save a few $$ / month. |
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Chaldo
join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI | reply to 53059959
+5 |
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Cogdis
join:2007-03-26
Floral Park, NY
1 edit | +6
Verizon just upped the dividend and had a great quarter |
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David
No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs: | +7 |
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iansltx_
@spcsdns.net
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I'd but VZ now but I gotta pay bills. Maybe in a bit.
One thing's for sure: I'll take Verizon FiOS over U-Verse, and Verizon DSL over ATT DSL. Both telcos are rather lame in their wireless offerings, but Verizon seems more progressive than ATT, and their wireless customer base, which has a high ARPU, will soon be the largest in the US. And FiOS is priced higher than UVerse because services provided are better, at least for the internet. I'll pay 70 for 20/20 fiber over 65 for 18/1.5 that degrades if youzre online.
Verizon never has to upgrade their last mile ever again, ATT does...and copper degrades much quicker than fiber.
Verizon and ATT both have internet backbones, so I'd call it a wash there. But Verizon is piping that backbone to customers with FiOS to a much larger extent than ATT is. And ATT is capping.
Verizon all the way. Short T for all it's worth (*shrugs* not much). iPhone schmiPhone. It's a premium product that has to be heavily subsidized, and the ARPU minimum is so high that people will be turned off. Wireless and very high speed internet are the growth areas...plus triple play if you're good enough at all three plays. Verizon is coming out with VoIP soon, with tons of features. So they win. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000
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Most people will give up the higher prices, higher profit plans as times get tight. They may not subscribe to HBO, Showtime, Starz etc but they will subscribe to the lower tiers.
The average non DSLR type user will go for price before speed. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| I'm not the average DSLR sub 
Even though I telecommute, I stick with the cheapest overall plan ($89/month 'All the best' package on Cable), the $59/month 2 line wireless (and 15% service discount), and no text or data plan (month 2 month on data as needed). |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to iansltx_
Pretty much... Verizon (and Verizon wireless) are a bit more agressive as a company than AT&T is.
POTS: Both rape customers for it
DSL: AT&T is definately cheaper, and cheaper to bundle
Video: VZ has a more desirable product from a customer standpoint. AT&T 'may' have a decent product, but has restricted itself by assuming that nobody has more than 1 HD set (or more than 1 HD set running at a time). This will haunt them in the future.
Internet: VZ with FiOS is the better product...period. Uverse is capped by the last mile.
Wireless: Varies by area. VZ has sold itself as a superior product, but is also a walled garden. AT&T 3G network isn't complete, but has potential as it has a simpler upgrade to LTE than VZW does.
In general, IMO, AT&T has stuck its neck out less, and has less debt to hang out to deploy Uverse... but then will have to keep updating it. VZ, on the otherhand, has more risk, but should be able to come out without significant upgrades to infrastructure once FiOS is deployed.
Both have decent stock values. Want to see 'poor' look at either Sprint or Qwest.
»finance.yahoo.com/q/co?s=T |
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Harddrive
Premium
join:2000-09-20
Norwich, CT | reply to David
+8 |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000
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Wait a minute.... I thought you could only telecommute with 100Mbps Symmetrical FIOS.
My wife was laid off and we decided to cut back on the movie channels and go from 10Mbps DSL to 2Mbps DSL because we don't HAVE to have that. I am on call 24x7x365 and sometimes I have to telecommute out side of normal business hours. I can and maintain a couple of remote desktop sessions and terminal sessions to routers and switches and talk on my VoIP phone using a 2Mb DSL circuit. I don't worry about big download, I've got 100Mbps (Not a consumer class circuit) at the office  |
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Nightshade
sic semper tyrannis
Premium
join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR | reply to Harddrive
+9
He's a moron and the stock investors who listened to him are idiots. |
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STLresident
join:2006-12-28
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to en102
Reading these boards is very entertaining. People speak like experts when it so happens they have no idea what they are talking about. I prefer making sure I have my facts correct before posting on a website.
Currently, all my services are with ATT (Home phone, internet, TV and Wireless). Besides home phone I have the premium packages for everything else.
Internet-18mbps down/1.5mbps up
TV-U400 (89 HD stations) (2HD/2SD streams at one time)
Wireless- iphone unlimited talk and data
All things added up brings my monthly service bill to just north of $300...
WHile you all rip att about the last mile you fail to realize that they are milking the copper for all its worth. TO be honest, it wouldn't suprise me if in 2 or 3 years ATT to announce that a majority of the last mile has been replaced with fiber. |
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