SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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2009 will see a 12% decline in subscriber growth. That's in part because the broadband market was already slowing down, but it's also thanks to the troubled economy and slow home sales (no new homes, no new connections). I might also add that those who rent find units more often than not that already come cable-ready for HSI. Case in point: My own rental unit already had the wiring in place by the local cable monopoly. I have considered several times getting DSL instead, however, that would entail a laundry list of inconvenience to me including:
(1) Taking time out of work to sit and wait for the DSL provider to show up and split the line into voice and data;
(2) Waiting on the local telco monopoly to provision the line, which, as previously experienced elsewhere, took 30-45 days.
Cable has many what some consider "unfair" advantages over DSL in more ways than just home ownership sales. |
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funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
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| said by SilverSurfer  :Case in point: My own rental unit already had the wiring in place by the local cable monopoly. I have considered several times getting DSL instead, however, that would entail a laundry list of inconvenience to me including: (1) Taking time out of work to sit and wait for the DSL provider to show up and split the line into voice and data; (2) Waiting on the local telco monopoly to provision the line, which, as previously experienced elsewhere, took 30-45 days. Cable has many what some consider "unfair" advantages over DSL in more ways than just home ownership sales. This is true but it is also somethings Telcos can and ought to fix.
They have a real "can't do" attitude! |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
·PenTeleData
·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
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There's splitterless DSL today that uses filters.
There should be no need for a truck roll to install a DSL splitter.
When I had DSL a few years ago, Verizon gave me a self install kit that had the modem, power adapter, phone cord, a CD and a few filters. No tech had to come and install anything. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
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said by funchords :... They have a real "can't do" attitude! in my opinion, it's not the ILECs have a "can't do" attitude, it's they have a "been sitting around on their fat phone and DSL monopoly @ssess for too long and don't know how to compete anymore" attitude.
they were fat, dumb and happy after they killed all the clecs and line sharing died, then cable started real broadband deployment, followed by digital voice, while the telcos sat around until they got hit by the cable truck.
and I'm still not sure they get it. |
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ptrowski
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs: | reply to Eat Me
Exactly. With AT&T it all came in a nice little self install box. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
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what i want to know is why cant DSL just do the buy modem and call it in format like cable. when i first got comcast it took me longer to get to circuit city and back then it did to get HSI on the account and the modem provisioned. knew someone with DSL it tool 30days from the time they ordered until it was turned on.
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to ptrowski
Actually, anyone too stupid to do a self-install in today's market probably shouldn't have a computer anyway.
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to Kearnstd
That is pretty much how it works now.
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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said by RadioDoc :Actually, anyone too stupid to do a self-install in today's market probably shouldn't have a computer anyway. I see, so essentially you are assuming that I am not able to do a self-install and you obliquely calling me stupid. You really should have clicked on the I do not wish to post link before you published this little nugget of your "wisdom."  |
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funchords
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Washington, DC
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| reply to RadioDoc
said by RadioDoc :Actually, anyone too stupid to do a self-install in today's market probably shouldn't have a computer anyway. I would have agreed with you had I not experienced two different provisioning nightmares with Verizon.
Self-install counts on good instructions and the back-end technology that works. Verizon had neither.
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to ptrowski
some companies in Ohio do not provide this. It's called a truck roll no matter what and still wait for everything. |
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ptrowski
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Putnam, CT
clubs: | Same here for the cable company locally. No self install, $75 charge. |
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RadioDoc
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·AT&T Midwest
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said by SilverSurfer :said by RadioDoc :Actually, anyone too stupid to do a self-install in today's market probably shouldn't have a computer anyway. I see, so essentially you are assuming that I am not able to do a self-install and you obliquely calling me stupid. You really should have clicked on the I do not wish to post link before you published this little nugget of your "wisdom." Oddly enough, the only one applying the 'stupid' label to you is, well, you. But nice try.
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to funchords
That was pretty much the norm awhile back but (at least here in AT&T territory) self-install is very much plug and play now.
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funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC | Yeah, well my disasters were April and November of 2008.
Verizon's got a great network but terrible back-office and support systems. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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said by RadioDoc :Oddly enough, the only one applying the 'stupid' label to you is, well, you. But nice try. LMAO. "Nice try" at what? You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to ptrowski
And i forgot our cable company does the same thing. But when they do it they actually run a new HSI line from the tap to the house (at least they were going to do that for me), replaced the grounding block and a few other things. So couldn't complain about the install charge which is $20.00 |
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