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Anony_mouse

@direcpc.com

Bonding?

Hi everyone.

Been lurking, poking around the archives and trying to dig up an answer for something that's been bugging me. I'm yet another satellite user who's considering ISDN. I've thought about making the switch before, but the big issue is speed. 128k just does not seem like a happy situation, considering monthly costs would be close to double what I pay now for satellite.

Then I realized 128k ISDN is two 64k channels and Lo, did I stumble across the concept of bonding. This resparked my interest in ISDN as a viable alternative to satellite. Where 128k would be a tad too slow, 256k would be just peachy, even at the extra cost.

My issue is that after about a week of online research, I'm still not sure how this would work in a real world context. Would two bonded lines behave like a single 256k connection? Or would it be like having separate 128k connections?

Any clarification, or any further information on bonding, would be muchly appreciated. There really isn't much info out there that's intelligible to me.

lastmile

join:2007-09-08
Robertsville, MO
·Cingular Wireless

Not an expert on this but channel-bonding for ISDN is typically when you bond two 64k channels together for 128k ISDN BRI (basic rate interface) using existing phone wires. This is supported by some ISP's for dialup / dedicated ISDN.

I priced this at about $160/month for 128k line and service but I would need a extender from central office thus the higher cost

Not sure bonding two 128k channels is feasible or supported by many ISPs on phone wires. 256k sounds more like a fractional T1 or private-line where you can order certain subsets of b-channels. 256k = 4B (bearer 64k) + 1D (data/signaling) channel.

Google on Fractional T1 -- here is also a link:

»www.att.com/gen/isp?pid=2533#4

I would suspect cost will be higher than ISDN BRI 128K.


Anony_mouse

@direcpc.com

Thanks for the fast reply. I'm unfamiliar with fractional T1, but that seems like a much easier solution. As I understand it the technology is the same, with ISDN being two 64k channels and T1 being 24? I'll look into this a bit more. Thanks for the suggestion.

As for bonding two 128k channels, I can't find much of anything online, so I'm assuming it's rarely practiced, if at all. I'm mostly curious as to how practical it might be, but fractional T1 seems like the road to look to for this.

And yes, it's costly. By my own half current guesstimation, I'd put the cost of two 128k lines at $160+/month and the fractional T1 equivalent at $100/month, with wiggle room for unforeseen costs. An awful lot of money considering the speeds, but c'est la vie. That's rural internet.


fozngoof
Premium
join:2003-07-08
Temple, TX
·AT&T Southwest

reply to Anony_mouse
you will need to contact the business section of the phone company and ask about the T1.

The T1 will probably be what you want, but it is expensive. I'm not sure on the ISP side of that either.

Other sources of information I would suggest would be a local mom and pop ISP. Tell them what you want and what it would take. In my experience they are usually pretty friendly and helpful.

aeblank

join:2004-09-07
Cadillac, MI

reply to Anony_mouse
I have heard of people bonding 2 ISDNs. It requires a modem capable and an ISP capable. Using my costs, which are some of the cheapest I've seen......It would be $120/mo. for the 2 ISDN lines and $20/mo. for the ISP.

I have fliers for a FULL T1 for $199. I don't particularly believe it, but its out there. utmi.net is the place, if they still exist.

Anyway, maybe 1/2 a T1 is in the same price range as 2 ISDNs, and it'd be faster.

There are NO good solutions.

Cellular EVDO is my best bet, but I need a cellphone amp first. Lovely......


Anony_mouse

@direcpc.com
reply to Anony_mouse
Thanks for all the advice. I'll just have to think on it and shop around some more. There are too many trade offs with each option and as you say, no solution is ideal.

dcsweb

join:2009-05-04
reply to aeblank
FYI Utmi has become Cynergy Communications.

They are doing very well these days with quality of signal and uptime since the switch of their backbone provider.
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