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korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
clubs:

reply to gmracing
Re: More CPE stuff

We're considering using RG-1000 with Karlnet too. I've heard of a nice unit for about $350 that runs Power over Ethernet and includes the radio card and RG-1000 guts in a NEMA-type box. Only thing to add is the antenna.

HTH!
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tenspeed

join:2001-12-15
Harrington, DE
We're running into the same problem here with CPE options.

Have you tested this unit config?

Tenspeed
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korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
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Not yet, tenspeed. I'm still on the fence whether we should go with a DSSS-based solution in Richmond (it's a good size metropolitan area so I'm very concerned about interference) like Orinoco or with an FHSS solution like Cirronet. The thing about Cirronet is that it only allows speeds up to 920kbps and is only USB compatible for now. That currently means no Mac or Linux support.

The plus, though, is that it's only $370 for all the CPE and is entirely customer installable, i.e. no truckroll, i.e. no setup fees.

Gotta make a decision soon though because Excite@Home is shutting off Comcast's network on the Southside at the end of the month and Comcast is rushing to move their subs to their own network. With all the problems the other @Home people have been having with these moves, I'm anticipating demand for our service to increase significantly.

Anyway, have a good one!

K.
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tenspeed

join:2001-12-15
Harrington, DE

We in the process of setting several area's and the common complaint is the CPE cost is to high. They love the service once they get on.

Also they truck rolls are getting out of hand.

I've looked at all kinds of setups, but I want to stay with the Orinoco solutions, it at all possible. I have to much invested in equipment to change mid stream.

Tell me a little about your setup.

tenspeed
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aldonorth

join:2001-04-21
Carlisle, AR

reply to korym
RG-1000

The RG-1000s may be getting phases out for the 1100s? I just bought 20 of them for $59 each. According to Winncom, the 1100s have DSL modem in them instead of 56K modems. I bought some up since the modems don't really mean anything to me anyway. There may be some more cheapies out there for a while?


korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
clubs:

reply to tenspeed
Re: More CPE stuff

Well, tenspeed, fortunately, we don't have too many customers on our current Alvarion BAII setup so it won't be too much to redeploy with Orinoco or Cirronet or whatever else we're looking at.

I still love the performance of the Alvarion gear but the CPE is simply too high.

I'm actually working with a gentleman who offers the RG-1000 in the NEMA box for about $350 apiece. But it runs Karlnet's client software so our entire infrastructure would have to be Karlnet driven. Adds a bit more cost to the infrastructure but it's worth it to me since it also offers bandwidth management, a higher level of security control and more. Of course, if we go with a straight 802.11b network, we can add a bandwidth management tool such as YDI's solution.

The biggest concern for us is if a DSSS-based network can handle the good sized metropolitan area we're deploying in. That's why we're looking at Cirronet too.

HTH!
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tenspeed

join:2001-12-15
Harrington, DE

Go wireless,
I've looked at quite a few setup, about the only one I haven't tried is the YDI etherant setup. It's a bit pricey.

But I'm still looking. I can't justify ordering a kit all the time to play with it. I've got enough in my stock pile now.

Is anyone here using the YDI kit?

tenspeed
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korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
clubs:

Yeah, I know what you mean, tenspeed. As the saying goes (and at the risk of offending some) it's time for me to take a sh*t or get off the pot.

Dirk, I would love to get that many people signed up initially with the guarantee they'd sign up for service when the equipment came in. $40k's a nice chunk of change to lay down for 100 CPE units.

Then again, all in due time!
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dongato17
VIP
join:2000-07-28
Atlanta, GA

reply to korym
Hey Kory,
Have you thought about making your own rg1000/karlnet/nema enclosure? Methinks it would be pretty cheap. Plus you could put a router? between two of them, put a directional antenna on one and an omni on the other, set them to different channels and set up your own little "routing" node to build out your network.... Just a thought. If you were strategic about where you put your repeater nodes, then it could save you some infrastructure [read tower] costs in the long run....

-Hal


superdog
I Need A Drink
Premium,MVM
join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA

  Hi Gang!!!,I love everyone here but the more I read the more I like my situation!!!.I only have a T1 and I am sure that my Equipment will take care of any bandwidth problem I have(Raylink is slow so it almost moves backwards!!!!HEHEHEHE).I am just kidding!!!.All I want to do is use my T1 to the best ability that I can!.I was told today that I do not need to use any Breezecom stuff as Linux and a 486 machine will solve all my problems(linux router)for all my business users?,everyone is worried about speed but the end result is only as fast as Your backbone?,Tim
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korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
clubs:

reply to dongato17
Actually, Hal, that's what the guy I've been working with is looking to do. I think it would be cheap too, to look into that solution with the boxes Ken recommended.

And you're right. It would be a cool way to expand the network by offering free service to someone in a strategically located spot in exchange for allowing an additional POP on their roof to serve their immediate area.

My partner and I did some "war driving" today and decided that DSSS just won't work in the city. We picked up too many AP's on NetStumbler (and we didn't even have an external antenna!!) So, we're thinking of sticking with FHSS in the city and deploying DSSS in the suburbs. We drove a five mile perimeter around the tower and could see it just about the whole time. We didn't pick up any 2.4GHz on the frequency scanner we used nor any AP's on NetStumbler in the vicinity of the tower.

Anyway, thx much for the thought, Hal. I'm going to look more into this!
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