Goronomo
join:2000-11-14
Buffalo, NY
| DSLReports, Verizon, PPPoE and Kafka...
My connection date for Verizon Online DSL was today, which of course means I don't have it yet. No surprise. The surprise was an article on the web stating that Verizon has switched to PPPoE, after I had just painstakingly setup DHCP on a Linux box prior to my DSL activation. So now I am trying to get up to speed on PPPoE (ick) and
all I can find is conflicting information..ie; the following DSLReports News article (not a forum post) completely contradicts the installation instructions in the, also following, Verizon manual. So which is it?
DSLReports News Article:
3. With PPPoE and WinPoet, be careful not to bind any TCP/IP to your network card! WinPoet handles all network interaction. Check your control panel, Network Settings, and look for a line like "TCP/IP -> (your ethernet adaptor card)". If you are on PPPoE and suffering disconnects or freezes every 10 minutes, remove this binding.
Verizon Online DSL Manual Release 3.0 (current)
"Look for the seven components in the large window (Windows '98 network control panel). You need all SEVEN components..."
1) Dial-Up Adapter
2) TCP/IP
3) Ethernet Card/Modem Driver
4) TCP/IP --> Ethernet Card/Modem Driver
5) Dial-Up Adapter #2 (VPN Support)
6) Microsoft VPN Adapter
7) TCP/IP --> Dial-Up Adapter #2 |
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72245156
TSWB.org
Premium,ExMod 2000-04
join:2000-07-11
Winnipeg, MB
|  The main question is which software you are going to be using, and what about the Linux box? The fellows in the All Things Unix forum can help you with PPPoE and Linux.
Now, to sort this Windows PPPoE stuff out. For all PPPoE clients, in the properties for TCP/IP -> Ethernet card(NIC), you can add a dummy IP with non-routable IP's, such as 255.255.255.0 and subnet 10.0.0.1.
Now if you are using RASPPPoE, which you would download here (it's not officially supported, but it works great!  ), you simply remove the binding of TCP/IP to the NIC.
With WinPoET, as long as you have something else bound to the NIC (such as NetBEUI), you can do the same.
With Enternet, that binding must remain.
I strongly suggest that you do not install WinPoET, as it can cause problems on some systems, and removing it can be a real pain in the butt.
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Goronomo
join:2000-11-14
Buffalo, NY
| Perhaps I should have pointed out that I have a five machine [(3) Linux, (2) Windows] LAN, and one of these machines must act as a firewall/gateway for the other four. And further, TCP/IP must remain bound to the NIC's in the Windows machines, and the IP's must not be mere place holders, or they will be unable to communicate over the LAN.
I think the fact that the telco's have chosen a protocol which does not allow multiple machines to be connected to the Internet via a Windows machine, and that they offer no support for Linux speaks volumes. |
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2Paranoid
join:2000-11-16
Portland, ME | reply to 72245156
Is there anyway to get around installing winpoet with the verizon installation software?
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larsfum
Premium
join:2000-09-01
Naples, FL
| I believe the way to do it, if you are going to use RASPPPOE is to just create a connection using Dial-UP Networking. In the phone # box enter "0" ,that's zero, and for username you enter yourusername@yourisp.com, .net. Then enter your password in, and check to remember password. Right click on this new connection, select properties, and server types, uncheck everything, except TCP/IP.
You will also have to set up your Email program with the proper incoming and outgoing server addresses. You can use the connection wizard if using MS Outlook (Express).
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Goronomo
join:2000-11-14
Buffalo, NY
| reply to 2Paranoid
Apparently not, although this doesn't necessarily rule out a subsequent de-installation of WinPoet; When you start the Verizon installation software, the first thing it does is check to see if your DSL modem has "sync'd up" with the telco's central office. If it hasn't, everything stops right there. A small pop-up displays an 800 number to call for service problems and you're shown the exit button. Since my service is still not active, that's as far as I got.
Now, had the modem been sync'd, WinPoet would have been installed followed by an updated version of Netscape. So really, the only way to get around installing WinPoet would be to not run the Verizon CD at all. |
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EmilioG
Whats This?
Premium
join:2000-09-19
New York, NY |  reply to Goronomo
Where is Franz Kafka in all this?
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