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loginatnine

join:2009-05-24
Montreal, QC

reply to paulwye
Re: Weird Tomato DHCP Issue

1- Yea my network settings are fine in tomato, dhcp range is from 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.149. Does the lease times could have an effect?

2- Just to be sure I'm understanding what you say, you suggest I change the router gateway address to something less familiar like 192.168.2.1 so the dhcp range could be something like 192.168.2.100 to 192.168.2.149? If that's what you're trying to say, that's actually not a bad idea at all, it's pretty late around here and I manage like 6 laptops on my network so I don't want to try it right now but it's definitely worth a shot...

But damn, why the hell does tomato does that anyway??? Is that a bug I should report maybe?

Thanks for your help Paul, much appreciated!

paulwye

join:2007-02-17
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

It's hard to say...I don't actually mind, because I sort of like static IPs, and this is almost as good, without having to assign a DHCP reservation to the MAC address. As it happens, the places to which our laptops travel are all on .0 subnets, so I can't really tell you if my router screws up this way or not...I'll try to experiment this week if I can.


TilhasBB
Formally Goden99
Premium
join:2000-08-05
canada

reply to loginatnine
Thanks for the input guys.
I just applied the fix on the linksys site and keep you posted if it helps.

The DHCP range isn't the program both laptops and iphone would magically want to go between 192.168.1.60 to 192.168.1.90
So I changed the range to 192.168.1.50 to 192.168.1.100
Even when the laptops connected with an ip in that range there is no internet....

I just changed the Router IP to 192.168.2.1 and range to 192.168.2.51 - 192.168.2.100
and lease time to 800minnutes.
Nothing worked. rebooted both laptops, tried assigning ip in that range then set to automatic but reverted back to the 192.168.1.x range.


jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX

If a client thinks its DHCP lease is still valid, it will request a "renew".

If a DHCP server accepts to renew an IPO lease that is outside of the range the DHCP server has been given, it should be considered a bug.
It may agree to renew it if it is in the same subnet.

One thing to verify: does your client with a "foreign" lease get new coordinates for the default route (aka: gateway) as well as dns servers, or does it keep those from its old DHCP lease obtained from another location ? This might explain its inability to reach the internet if it doesn't know the Ip address of the local router.


TilhasBB
Formally Goden99
Premium
join:2000-08-05
canada
I will check next time i get booted off the net.

I had to go into the Tomato Basic Network Setting and set DHCP's range to 192.168.1.51 - 192.168.1.100


Davesnothere

@teksavvy.com

reply to jfmezei
said by jfmezei See Profile :

One thing to verify: does your client with a "foreign" lease get new coordinates for the default route (aka: gateway) as well as dns servers, or does it keep those from its old DHCP lease obtained from another location ? This might explain its inability to reach the internet if it doesn't know the Ip address of the local router.
You may be onto something...

I have Zero experience with Tomato firmware, but in terms of generalities, the described symptoms smack of a DNS problem, IMHO.

Personally, I DO prefer to use Static IPs within my local network (makes port forwarding easier to setup, and most times when a router needs restarting, I have found that it was due to a DHCP problem, and using Static Local IPs usually also avoids that issue), and when you do this on PCs running XP, they then insist that you manually enter your DNS settings, which can be those which your ISP told you to use, OR, you can choose to enter the same IP address as your Gateway (local router).

While you're at it, the proper Gateway IP itself needs to be entered into each computer's network settings no matter whether or not you use Static Local IPs like me.

When I switched from Bell to TSI last year (insert cheer here), I originally forgot that I had previously manually entered Bell's DNS's into my XP PCs AND into my router's main setup screen, and sometime along the way, Bell had chosen to lock down their DNS servers, so that if I was not logged into THEIR service anymore (and I had just made my change), that the Bell DNS servers would ignore me most of the time, giving me no web pages but OK local net. - Changing them to TSI's DNS's solved that. (my Win98SE PC was set up as DHCP and was therefore not bothered by any of this)

One way to test whether you have a DNS problem is to enter the actual IP address of a website into your browser instead of the web address, if you know or can find out any beforehand, and if you only can access the web site THAT way, then DNS is your category of problem.

Another thing to try on any problem computer is to run WINIPCFG (on XP at least), and tell it to release all the settings it has gathered thru the DHCP of your router (as often even a computer restart will not clear these).

Hope there is some help in all of this...

Cheers !
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